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The stimulus was a failure by BuckGalaxy March 29, 2012 11:57 am

I don't know that I'd agree with that conclusion. It seemed to me the country was headed into a ... by bowser 2012-03-29 14:29:39
- You misread it, missing the "Not!" Buck agrees with you. by TB 2012-03-29 16:34:33
  - Damn. Second time in two days I've done something like that. Believe it or not, I sent a letter off ... by bowser 2012-03-29 20:05:21

A bioethicist weighs in: Was Cheney too old for a transplant? by bowser March 25, 2012 7:26 pm

What if you're too fat instead of too old? Who wins? Who decides? by TB 2012-03-27 16:25:26
- All services where demand exceeds supply must be rationed, whether by an administrative decision based on guidelines and judgements, the ... by ER 2012-03-27 20:32:12
  - A short article on the heart transplant system and Cheney here. by TB 2012-03-27 21:09:24
Half a life by Jody 2012-03-27 15:21:36
My daughter's F/inlaw died recently at age 86. He had a perforated colon and went septic. The Doctors said he ... by FrankC 2012-03-27 12:03:01
- The answer depends. Was it correct for him? For his family? For his personal community? For his physician? For ... by bowser 2012-03-27 21:14:46
  - He was begging for the surgery He had the wherewithall to pay for it I think he knew he was unlikely to ... by FrankC 2012-03-28 00:17:13
    - If he was competent, his is the only directive which matters. Friends and family, including those with a Power ... by bowser 2012-03-28 16:06:27
Horse dookey. No he is not too old. You guys hate him so therefore want to see him dead...gone...finito... by Jody 2012-03-26 13:48:12
- Read the citation. by bowser 2012-03-26 14:35:50
  - What citation? The article? I did...and...? by Jody 2012-03-26 14:44:21
    - I forgot. English is your second language. The normal cut-off for transplants is 70. Cheney is 71. There is a ... by bowser 2012-03-26 16:14:34
      - That's all you got? aw c'mon old man, you can do better than that....btw...how old are you now? by Jody 2012-03-26 18:14:19
        
        I have, as has Cheney, exceeded my 3 score and 10. And similar to Cheney, I don't deserve to ... by bowser 2012-03-27 00:04:20
        
        I simply don't understand your thoughts on this....you condone abortion. What is the difference? by Jody 2012-03-27 06:29:20
        
        A fetus is called "fetus" because it's not a "people". Larva are called "larva" because they are not a ... by bowser 2012-03-27 17:38:28
        
        Never been pregnant have you Bowser? by Jody 2012-03-27 19:23:11
        
        Not lately. But to continue the silliness, I have been a fetus and I have been a people. ... by bowser 2012-03-27 20:17:26
        
        Not really a silly question. In my reality when a woman is pregnant, so is the man who helped get ... by Jody 2012-03-28 07:27:42
        
        You are right. I don't think Cheney deserves to live, no matter his age. And, therefore, I don't ... by bowser 2012-03-28 16:18:25
        
        Some people are more of a threat after they die Bowser...you can't kill an idea. by Jody 2012-03-28 18:20:05
        
        Cheney is not a martyr. He's a war criminal. If he traveled to many countries he'd be tried, ... by bowser 2012-03-29 11:24:48
        
        Last. n/t by Jody 2012-03-29 11:44:03
But you gotta agree, Bowser, Dick Cheney finally has a heart. Get it? He finally has a heart. Who wants to be ... by Jeff-Wash 2012-03-25 21:37:17
- "Ya gotta have heart, all you really need is heart, oh it's fine to be a genius of course but ... by bowser 2012-03-26 12:40:38
Well, there are precedents, you know... by ER 2012-03-25 20:41:57
- Oh, come on! Compared to Cheney, Vader was a saint! by VelociraptorBlade 2012-03-26 01:12:39

Photo ID required to take SAT tests by TB March 27, 2012 2:40 pm

I give up on education. People go to such great lengths to cheat, how can those fancy certificates and assurances given ... by VelociraptorBlade 2012-03-27 18:05:17
Do YOU have a problem with that? I think it's fine. An SAT should be taken by the ... by bowser 2012-03-27 16:45:46
Yep, people hiring doubles to take their SAT examinations for them has become a documented problem. I can see similar ... by ER 2012-03-27 15:12:00
- Some observations: by TB 2012-03-27 15:40:53
  - Your lame excuses are startlingly reminiscent of the ones for poll taxes and literacy tests southern Democrats made in the ... by ER 2012-03-27 15:47:05
    - There are no poll taxes. by TB 2012-03-27 15:54:54
      - It is YOUR party that is trying to get this travesty passed, not mine. The burden of proof that ... by ER 2012-03-27 16:00:01
        
        I laid out my evidence. by TB 2012-03-27 16:03:07
        
        Tom, we know your methods. We've learned to recognize your little sneaker posts when you're prepping us for the latest ... by ER 2012-03-27 16:32:27
        
        Florida already asks for a photo ID for voting. by TB 2012-03-27 17:02:07
        
        I have a photo ID driver's license, but I've never been asked for it. They only ask my name ... by ER 2012-03-27 17:17:09
        
        The voter ID "obscenity" was implemented years ago, after the 2004 election. by TB 2012-03-27 19:00:17
        
        I missed it. I usually vote by mail or by absentee ballot (I picked out the former by flashing my ... by ER 2012-03-27 19:12:50

As always... by FrankC March 27, 2012 11:53 am

That was a classic example of raw intellectual stubbornness. by TB 2012-03-27 13:20:23

Total Information Awareness, continued by TB March 23, 2012 4:36 pm

What were you expecting- Outrage? Dire predictions? (n/t) by RobVG 2012-03-23 20:15:32
- What I'm always expecting for some silly reason. Consistency and integrity. by TB 2012-03-23 21:32:20
  - Tom, its your agenda that is unyielding, non-negotiable and consistent. Your partisan ideology demands that any questioning of that agenda ... by ER 2012-03-24 09:29:24
  - You are, I'm sure, just fine with this. It seems to be legal. I don't know why you ... by bowser 2012-03-23 23:01:18
    - What I am finding interesting is that it doesn't bother you any more. by TB 2012-03-24 10:58:55
      - I did not say this didn't bother me. You posted it on Flame, why should it bother you after ... by bowser 2012-03-26 14:34:52
        
        I repeat: by TB 2012-03-26 15:11:14
        
        I am truly sorry for you. If I were incapable of accountability, of even understanding accountability, of being responsible ... by bowser 2012-03-26 16:11:34
        
        Good. Now that you've done your official Random Babbling response, are we done with the thread? by TB 2012-03-26 16:41:17
      - You posted this on Flame. Why does this bother you when years of illegal Bush-Cheney activity didn't? by bowser 2012-03-25 19:28:41
      - You posted it, on Flame. Why does this bother you when years of Bush-Cheney illegal activity didn't? by bowser 2012-03-25 00:18:44
      - I did not say it didn't bother me. I asked why it bothered you. by bowser 2012-03-24 12:54:57
      - Jello, meet nail. by RobVG 2012-03-24 11:17:35
        
        Ya pound enough nails into that Jell-O, some of it will stick. There was a reply, finally, if no ... by bowser 2012-03-26 16:16:04

GOP budget will break the middle class by bowser March 25, 2012 12:16 am

Sounds like Cain's 9-9-9 by RobVG 2012-03-25 11:25:17
- Tax money handed out to "consumers" to help the economy is the myth. by TB 2012-03-25 13:14:06
  - I thought that's what I said in the first paragraph. (n/t) by RobVG 2012-03-25 16:39:54
The middle class has always had upper class pretensions. by ER 2012-03-25 05:28:58

The Sun Also Sets by TB March 25, 2012 3:21 pm

George Will on creative destruction by TB March 24, 2012 11:50 am

It's sad this sort of post has to be placed on Flame, by ER 2012-03-24 13:15:04
- One of the fundamental flaws in your thinking is that you can't see the difference between tens of thousands of ... by TB 2012-03-24 14:51:27
  - On creosote: by TB 2012-03-24 14:58:51
    - What "one powerful entity" could you possibly be talking about? Where have I or anyone on this forum ever suggested ... by ER 2012-03-24 17:19:47
      - Does this mean George Will isn't on your "smart conservative" list any more? by TB 2012-03-24 19:09:29
        
        My "smart conservative" list gets shorter every day. by ER 2012-03-25 05:14:41
        
        You should see my "smart liberal" Post-It. by TB 2012-03-25 10:25:40
        
        As long as there's at least one name on it, you'll never get away with it. by ER 2012-03-25 11:35:53

The etch-a-sketch gaffe will never go away by BuckGalaxy March 23, 2012 7:58 pm

My god I can't believe what a gift this is! The guy who will likely win the GOP nomination ... by BuckGalaxy 2012-03-24 19:43:44
Somehow I don't think an attack based on "flip flops" or "lack of a core" would play well for Obama ... by TB 2012-03-23 21:54:42
- You're right. The Republican candidates have already pumped that well dry. I think the Dem TV campaign will simply consist of ... by ER 2012-03-23 23:27:24
The Right will blame it all on the Big Bad Liberal media, but I noticed both Santorum and Gingrich whipped ... by ER 2012-03-23 20:30:32
Link seems broken. Try this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-etch-a-sketch-incident-and-why-some-gaffes-catch-on/2012/03/22/gIQA8ob0TS_blog.html by BuckGalaxy 2012-03-23 20:01:55

Any thoughts on Republican strategy for November? by bowser March 23, 2012 11:40 pm

Same as 2010. by TB 2012-03-24 10:46:55
- Reagan had no war, tripled the deficit. 3X. Cheney, VP under Bush, said the lesson was that deficits ... by bowser 2012-03-24 13:02:36
  - The deficit in 1980 (constant dollars) was $170.9 billion. In 1988 it was $242.5 billion. by TB 2012-03-24 13:23:01
I think the Republicans have already shot every arrow in their quiver--at each other. This election will be decided by events ... by ER 2012-03-23 23:50:24
- I wish I could agree, and while life is lived forward, it's understood backward. With Rove and Perry involved, ... by bowser 2012-03-24 10:35:23
  - No one will believe them, Bowz. The entire campaign for the nomination has been nothing but multiple lies directed ... by ER 2012-03-24 10:54:00
- Does it bother anyone else that politics has basically become a slander-filled version of Survivor? by VelociraptorBlade 2012-03-24 00:39:47
  - This isn't new. by TB 2012-03-24 11:05:02
  - That's the way politics has always been throughout history. Its basically about guys in suits (or togas, or armor, ... by ER 2012-03-24 06:17:57
  - Everyone says it bothers them, and it's what works. by bowser 2012-03-24 01:10:50

Liberalism 1.0 by TB March 22, 2012 8:11 pm

There's a difference between liberalism and socialism. Also, despite complaining about taxes, conservatives have no problem hiking them up. by VelociraptorBlade 2012-03-23 14:43:15
- It used to be a spectrum, from left to right: radical, liberal, moderate, conservative, reactionary. The boundaries were fuzzy and ... by ER 2012-03-24 06:37:31
"What can men do against such reckless hate?" King Theoden of Rohan by ER 2012-03-23 13:02:32
Pity the person who thinks there is nothing more to life, to community, to existence than Legos. Those wretches ... by bowser 2012-03-22 21:22:35

Access to contraception: moving the goal posts by TB March 22, 2012 8:09 am

Possibly the most effective way to cut government costs would be to supply free contraception. I don't know what ... by bowser 2012-03-22 13:17:29
- You would think so Bowser....one would think so. I can't tell you how many immaculate conceptions occur. So we are back to ... by Jody 2012-03-22 19:39:12
  - There's a guard rail around the top of the Empire State Building. No one tells people to either stay ... by bowser 2012-03-22 23:46:50
    - Sorry Bowser... I know myself and my capabilities and I keep myself in check. I don't need a railing. by Jody 2012-03-23 09:58:23
      - Where the hell did I say "Jody needs a railing." by bowser 2012-03-23 10:20:30
        
        I am the *whoever*. by Jody 2012-03-23 11:00:53
    - Who paid for the railing? by TB 2012-03-23 07:12:19
      - Whoever benefits. That's the entire point. Whoever benefits. You're so afraid someone is going to get something for nothing ... by bowser 2012-03-23 10:25:08
- The poor do get free contraception. Have for years. by TB 2012-03-22 13:41:01
  - Yeah but women don't *plan* to have sex Tom...that would make them loose women. Society frowns on that.....so why would ... by Jody 2012-03-22 19:42:11
  - You guys fight supplying contraceptive items, and absolutely nothing for free. Sometimes a person wonders. That some people ... by bowser 2012-03-22 19:28:53
    - The punitive moralistic folks "who deny the realities of life" You are absolutely right on Bowser. That is me!! I expect more ... by Jody 2012-03-22 20:21:03
    - Okay, now we're just sailing around in the doldrums of the Idiot Zone again. by TB 2012-03-22 20:00:52
      - Keep doing what you've been doing and you keep getting what you've been getting. by bowser 2012-03-22 21:41:40
Trojans, 98% effective- 39¢ each (n/t) by RobVG 2012-03-22 10:01:35
- So are aspirin tablets. If used as directed. Personally, I prefer the morning- after birth control pill for men. by ER 2012-03-22 10:06:35
  - Interesting how men are kept entirely out of this discussion. by TB 2012-03-22 10:11:02
    - Is Viagra covered? (n/t) by podrock 2012-03-22 13:44:51
      - I believe it's swallowed, with a glass of water. by bowser 2012-03-23 12:53:29
    - That's because men can't get pregnant. If they could, there would be no discussion. The reason this is an 'issue' is ... by ER 2012-03-22 12:35:35
      - You described Santorum to a 'T' (n/t) by RobVG 2012-03-22 20:05:31
      - No, that's the line the Democrats are selling. by TB 2012-03-22 13:31:15
        
        TB, you can convince yourself of anything you want if it makes you feel better. As long as you ... by ER 2012-03-22 13:52:20
        
        Greed is a national asset, the driver of capitalism. (It's one of the Seven Deadly Sins.) Sex is an abomination, ... by bowser 2012-03-22 13:39:16
      - Blonde joke. Good-looking, curvy blonde arrives in the little examining room for visit with doctor. Seems a bit nervous. "Doctor, can ... by bowser 2012-03-22 13:21:23

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