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TB - at the bottom of the "Grasshopper thread". October 26, 2011 9:44 pm bowser

In the part where I claim there is no Union scandal on the scale of Enron, WorldCom, the hedge funds and banks, you cited the unfunded liabilities of various States and municipalities.  They you followed that with a nice little sack dance.

An unfunded liability is not a labor or Union matter, it is not a scandal for either labor or their Unions.  An unfunded liability means that management, employer, the bosses, has agreed to pay labor more than the budgeteers have allotted money.  The employer owes it’s workers.

There is no misfeasance nor malfeasance on behalf of the workers or their representatives.  No Union official has diverted funds.  You’ll have to try to find another example, and I’m sure you won’t.

Management is far more effective at stealing than are Union officials.  And have far more access to money.  No Union official has screwed workers out of their pensions on the scale of Enron, for one.

Arf

 

  • And as I carefully explained, by TB 2011-10-27 09:12:46
    • You did carefully explain, and explain well. You believe all public employees, workers, management, and politicians are hell-bent on ... by bowser 2011-10-27 10:52:12
      • I am well aware of the difference between the rank and file and union leadership and organizations. As for corruption, the ... by TB 2011-10-27 12:22:29
        • I give up. There is no way to have a reasonable discourse. Jimmy Hoffa got and deserves a ... by bowser 2011-10-27 13:20:08
          • "Reasonable discourse" is where information makes a difference. Hence the term "reason." You simply discarded almost all of my post. ... by TB 2011-10-27 14:32:18
            • "Hell, just mention “Teamsters” to most people, and see what image comes to mind." by bowser 2011-10-27 17:05:59
              • Especially in Chicago. by TB 2011-10-27 17:40:03
                • Sometime let's discuss the importance of sticking to a topic, not changing the subject, not trying to compare apples with ... by bowser 2011-10-27 19:46:31
                  • Look, there were over 1,000 indictments of union leaders and administrative personnel (not the members) between 2001 and 2008. ... by TB 2011-10-27 20:08:47
                    • Start with Madoff and work backward. How many businessmen and women have been indicted? What was the ... by bowser 2011-10-27 23:53:02
                      • Sure. Start with Madoff, then go to Enron, and run down your list. You might note that you ... by TB 2011-10-28 07:06:16
                  • Meanwhile... In California by TB 2011-10-27 17:44:28
                    • And in Washington State... by RobVG 2011-10-27 18:23:37

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