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"We all knew" November 17, 2013 10:37 am RobVG

NY senator Kristen Gillibrand on “This Week”-

Raddatz: Do you feel misled by Obama?

Gillibrand: He should have been more specific…

Raddatz: So were you misled?

Gillibrand: No, we all knew. The whole point of the plan is to cover things people

I guess this should have been obvious. What’s puzzling is, did the Republicans know. They fought the law all the way but I don’t think they argued publicly that people would lose their healthcare plans. At the time, we didn’t see a counter to Obama’s pledge. It’s not like them to give up an “I told you so”.

  • The truth comes out by SteveS 2013-11-19 12:03:41
    • Conservatives fought all the way to keep US health care as expensive as possible. by bowser 2013-11-17 15:45:16
      • So are you trying to say the ACA will lower COSTS? by RobVG 2013-11-17 17:09:08
        • The "Good Bill" myth. by TB 2013-11-18 08:59:04
          • Figured that by RobVG 2013-11-18 19:18:53
            • The difference is... by TB 2013-11-19 08:03:38
              • Yes. Across the board, the answer is yes. by bowser 2013-11-19 12:29:44
            • Let me understand this. by bowser 2013-11-18 11:52:35
            • What I'm saying. by bowser 2013-11-17 22:23:01
              • By definition conservatives fight for the status quo. by RobVG 2013-11-18 19:20:30
            • You analogy is excellent by FrankC 2013-11-17 16:06:46
              • Here's one I haven't seen before. by bowser 2013-11-17 22:17:49
                • It seems... by FrankC 2013-11-18 16:13:52
            • Four years ago: by TB 2013-11-17 13:03:37
              • And they all voted on it by SteveS 2013-11-17 17:19:09
                • At least 'you' guys stayed on topic. n/t by RobVG 2013-11-17 19:28:46

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