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enlightened absolutism May 25, 2012 6:44 pm FrankC

We could sure use Frederick the Great about now.

I watched a PBS production, Civilization: West, on how the West left Asia in the dust, how North America turned out so well vs SA turning out not so much. It points out that things are going South for the West and Asia is closing fast.

They also had a segment on Fredrick the Great and how he brought progress to Europe vs the fall of the Ottomans due mainly to fundamentalist religion.

It is a 2 part series and they will surely rerun part 1. Part 2 is this weekend I believe.

The point of my title for the post is that I am about ready to stop apologizing for finding the idea of a leader like Frederick an attractive idea.

Fredrick was an agnostic in a time of religious dominance and he promoted religious tolerance and was absolutely brilliant as a leader. He believed that it was his duty to govern honorably and fairly.

Surely we have the ability to train and appoint leaders more effective than our corrupt and cumbersome system. The fact is in our history we have had maybe 4-5 effective elected leaders and in each case they governed more like benevolent despots than the typical potus. I find it hard to believe that we could not live under a system where the right leader serves in the same way we handle supreme court judges.

I have no idea how we would construct a government without a legislative branch, but we probably could take a look at the China system without the totalitarian aspect.

  • Color me old fashioned: Those who would give up Essential Liberty, to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty ... by Jody 2012-05-26 21:31:56
    • Which is exactly what happened under Bush-Cheney. by bowser 2012-05-26 21:41:11
      • I know you feel this way Bowser. I am sorry that it didn't turn out differently. I am saddened that ... by Jody 2012-05-27 11:12:34
    • Here's the deal: by TB 2012-05-26 10:37:32
      • Yes, there's the rub... by FrankC 2012-05-26 17:21:31
        • Self-government by Robert 2012-05-26 18:43:07
          • It's engineering. by TB 2012-05-26 19:19:56
            • The conservative credo: "Find out what worked. Do it again." by Robert 2012-05-27 10:49:16
              • Sorry. I thought we were talking about who is driving the train. by TB 2012-05-27 12:36:54
                • That's policy, not the design of the government n/t by Robert 2012-05-27 16:34:24
          • It is fairly simple. by TB 2012-05-26 18:05:29
            • Doesn't seem like you read Frank's post by Robert 2012-05-26 18:50:20
              • The fundamental principles haven't changed. by TB 2012-05-26 18:59:17
                • I agree with you on this one Tom. Enlightened/ absolutism is an oxymoron. Sure, perhaps Frank is right about Fredrick the ... by Jody 2012-05-26 21:17:02
                  • The problem is definitely succession by FrankC 2012-05-26 22:50:54
                    • I understand where you are coming from Frank...I visit the big picture occasionally and the hairs on my neck stand ... by Jody 2012-05-27 09:42:51
                      • Same with my grandsons by FrankC 2012-05-27 12:03:46
                        • As I told Robert, don't confuse political liberty with existential liberty. by TB 2012-05-27 12:50:22
                          • Oh Frank...how true...how very very true. by Jody 2012-05-27 12:27:32
                        • Liberty is as feasible in a crowded society as a sparse one. In fact, it's even more important. by TB 2012-05-27 09:38:26
                          • The definition of liberty changes in a crowded society by Robert 2012-05-27 11:08:06
                            • I meant "political liberty," of course, not the "liberty" to do whatever you want no matter what the damage. by TB 2012-05-27 11:41:56
                              • Aren't you the one who insists that everything in life is political? by Robert 2012-05-27 16:56:14
                                • Amazing. It's as if all you read was the heading. by TB 2012-05-27 17:32:33
                            • It is truly the only answer. by Jody 2012-05-27 09:46:33
              • Great post and topic. by bowser 2012-05-25 19:08:39
                • Not to put too fine a point on it... by TB 2012-05-25 20:06:43
                  • Simplistic. by bowser 2012-05-25 20:21:45

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