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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2026/02/14/ai-progress/#comment-54732</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 23:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always wanted to create an ultra realistic Von Neumann probe simulation... I explained what I wanted to ChatGPT....

It understood, and so after a couple of hours of back and forth I now have a mathematical point cloud representation of the galaxy... I wanted it to be extremely realistic, so the milky way has been broken up into many millions of little &#039;cells&#039; The density of stars in these cells is determined by data based Astronomy models of the Milky way- density of stars is highest in the core, of course and also simulates the barred spiral galaxy in star distribution. Not only that, I plan to add a representation of the how the population density of ages and classes of star vary as you go from the core to the rim based on astronomical models of our galaxy- so the user can, for instance, exclude entire classes of stars from the Von Neuman colonization- (my bet is that it makes almost no difference to the time to colonize the galaxy if you choose to colonize ALL stars or JUST G2V sun class stars) - for instance the user can decide that binary star systems (~50% of systems) should be excluded because there is little hope of finding life there, or decide they are only interested in sun-like stars. Totally pointless detail because, I am almost certain it will make nearly zero difference to the time it takes for the probes to populate the subset of stars chosen for exploration.

I even included an Astrophysical model for the dust distribution in the galaxy, because the &#039;death rate&#039; of probes may increase or the speed may need to decrease- or both- where dust density is higher... again, pointless detail.... 420 lines of code to generate a pointlessly detailed galaxy so far... and almost at the point where I can add and model the growth of a von Neumann population..

This is, of course, a problem that has already been solved... the answer really depends on the speed the probes can reach... if one Intelligence successfully creates such a machine and sets it loose, then its 10&#039;s-100&#039;s of millions of years to populate the galaxy with that time primarily set by the top speed you assume for the probe...

Why am I doing it? No good reason... As a kid I was fascinated by the Fermi Paradox and the idea that if one intelligence built such a machine 100&#039;s of millions of years ago or more, then we should have one in our solar system... so where are they? And of course there is the Fred Saberhagen &#039;Berserker&#039; stories that propose malevolent Von Neumann machines systematically killing off competing intelligences as a solution to the Fermi paradox...

I also find it amusing to use AI to help model it, because- after it exterminates the annoying humans- it very well might go on to populate the galaxy - so maybe the simulation will give it a head start... :) With just 2.25 million &#039;cells&#039; it takes my computer less than a second to create my galaxy... 50 million points takes 10 seconds and it still renders smoothly, but once I add all the data to turn each point into a cell containing 10,000 stars I will have o render a small subset and essentially only calculate for the the colonization &#039;wavefront&#039; as it expands... ultimately I want to take the model of the expansion and export it into Blender to make a 3d animation that the camera can fly around and into....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always wanted to create an ultra realistic Von Neumann probe simulation&#8230; I explained what I wanted to ChatGPT&#8230;.</p>
<p>It understood, and so after a couple of hours of back and forth I now have a mathematical point cloud representation of the galaxy&#8230; I wanted it to be extremely realistic, so the milky way has been broken up into many millions of little &#8216;cells&#8217; The density of stars in these cells is determined by data based Astronomy models of the Milky way- density of stars is highest in the core, of course and also simulates the barred spiral galaxy in star distribution. Not only that, I plan to add a representation of the how the population density of ages and classes of star vary as you go from the core to the rim based on astronomical models of our galaxy- so the user can, for instance, exclude entire classes of stars from the Von Neuman colonization- (my bet is that it makes almost no difference to the time to colonize the galaxy if you choose to colonize ALL stars or JUST G2V sun class stars) &#8211; for instance the user can decide that binary star systems (~50% of systems) should be excluded because there is little hope of finding life there, or decide they are only interested in sun-like stars. Totally pointless detail because, I am almost certain it will make nearly zero difference to the time it takes for the probes to populate the subset of stars chosen for exploration.</p>
<p>I even included an Astrophysical model for the dust distribution in the galaxy, because the &#8216;death rate&#8217; of probes may increase or the speed may need to decrease- or both- where dust density is higher&#8230; again, pointless detail&#8230;. 420 lines of code to generate a pointlessly detailed galaxy so far&#8230; and almost at the point where I can add and model the growth of a von Neumann population..</p>
<p>This is, of course, a problem that has already been solved&#8230; the answer really depends on the speed the probes can reach&#8230; if one Intelligence successfully creates such a machine and sets it loose, then its 10&#8242;s-100&#8242;s of millions of years to populate the galaxy with that time primarily set by the top speed you assume for the probe&#8230;</p>
<p>Why am I doing it? No good reason&#8230; As a kid I was fascinated by the Fermi Paradox and the idea that if one intelligence built such a machine 100&#8242;s of millions of years ago or more, then we should have one in our solar system&#8230; so where are they? And of course there is the Fred Saberhagen &#8216;Berserker&#8217; stories that propose malevolent Von Neumann machines systematically killing off competing intelligences as a solution to the Fermi paradox&#8230;</p>
<p>I also find it amusing to use AI to help model it, because- after it exterminates the annoying humans- it very well might go on to populate the galaxy &#8211; so maybe the simulation will give it a head start&#8230; <img src='https://www.habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  With just 2.25 million &#8216;cells&#8217; it takes my computer less than a second to create my galaxy&#8230; 50 million points takes 10 seconds and it still renders smoothly, but once I add all the data to turn each point into a cell containing 10,000 stars I will have o render a small subset and essentially only calculate for the the colonization &#8216;wavefront&#8217; as it expands&#8230; ultimately I want to take the model of the expansion and export it into Blender to make a 3d animation that the camera can fly around and into&#8230;.<br />
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2026/02/14/ai-progress/#comment-54730</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 05:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you n/t</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2026/02/14/ai-progress/#comment-54724</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MATLAB  is a commercial scientific package... INSANELY  expensive fot professional use, but actually quite reasonable if you use it fot your own stuff at home... my company pays for it on my work computer,  I paid for a personal license on my home computer to try out modelling new ideas... it really is insanely powerful,  and with AI assisting in making the code simple and efficient,  you can easily write powerful programs.... but you do need to be careful to triple check them against problems you already know the answer to... AI coding assistance has improved orders of magnitude,  but it still makes mistakes. 


I was thinking,  since I have so much RAM I could do a realistic simulation of Von Neumann  machines and how long it would take to have them colonize every star in the galaxy... to play with the concept of the Fermi paradox.... such a program using ChatGPT would take  MAYBE an hour to create,  though  testing it to make sure its rigorously correct would take longer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MATLAB  is a commercial scientific package&#8230; INSANELY  expensive fot professional use, but actually quite reasonable if you use it fot your own stuff at home&#8230; my company pays for it on my work computer,  I paid for a personal license on my home computer to try out modelling new ideas&#8230; it really is insanely powerful,  and with AI assisting in making the code simple and efficient,  you can easily write powerful programs&#8230;. but you do need to be careful to triple check them against problems you already know the answer to&#8230; AI coding assistance has improved orders of magnitude,  but it still makes mistakes. </p>
<p>I was thinking,  since I have so much RAM I could do a realistic simulation of Von Neumann  machines and how long it would take to have them colonize every star in the galaxy&#8230; to play with the concept of the Fermi paradox&#8230;. such a program using ChatGPT would take  MAYBE an hour to create,  though  testing it to make sure its rigorously correct would take longer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2026/02/14/ai-progress/#comment-54720</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 20:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What language and IDE n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What language and IDE n/t</p>
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