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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/12/12/yo-pod-10/#comment-53671</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s just bad luck sometimes too.  Wars, natural disasters, pandemics, breakthrough technological discoveries, unexpected competition, etc can all ruin the best laid business plans...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s just bad luck sometimes too.  Wars, natural disasters, pandemics, breakthrough technological discoveries, unexpected competition, etc can all ruin the best laid business plans&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/12/12/yo-pod-10/#comment-53666</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2024 03:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stirring the pot again I see.  You really love pulling my chain don&#039;t you?


&lt;blockquote&gt;...they still can’t give me a cogent explanation for why ice cream isn’t cheaper in the winter. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why is hot coffee the same price in the summer?  Air conditioned offices, homes, cars maybe?  During the winter there are more indoor activities and yes, indoors is far more often than not heated.  There are flavors that are seasonal like peppermint which are more popular in winter.  Holidays bring more desserts.  People like comfort food all year around.  And industries know how to adjust production for seasonal demand.  DUH.  

Dude, you&#039;re smarter than this.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Economics has two theories, Capitalism and Socialism, and there is no reconciling the two.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Huh?  Capitalism and Socialism are not like comparing the Steady State theory of the universe to the Big Bang theory.  Capitialism and Socialism are 100% in agreement with the nature of economic laws.  No reconciliation needed in that respect.  You conflate value systems with laws of nature.  Marx agreed 100% with reality of S&amp;D explained by Adam Smith.  The disagreement, as I&#039;ve pointed out a hundred times, is on policy that will change the outcomes.  In a 100% socialized system the law of S&amp;D still exists, just not in the way a capitalist would describe as optimal efficiency. 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stirring the pot again I see.  You really love pulling my chain don&#8217;t you?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;they still can’t give me a cogent explanation for why ice cream isn’t cheaper in the winter. </p></blockquote>
<p>Why is hot coffee the same price in the summer?  Air conditioned offices, homes, cars maybe?  During the winter there are more indoor activities and yes, indoors is far more often than not heated.  There are flavors that are seasonal like peppermint which are more popular in winter.  Holidays bring more desserts.  People like comfort food all year around.  And industries know how to adjust production for seasonal demand.  DUH.  </p>
<p>Dude, you&#8217;re smarter than this.</p>
<blockquote><p>Economics has two theories, Capitalism and Socialism, and there is no reconciling the two.</p></blockquote>
<p>Huh?  Capitalism and Socialism are not like comparing the Steady State theory of the universe to the Big Bang theory.  Capitialism and Socialism are 100% in agreement with the nature of economic laws.  No reconciliation needed in that respect.  You conflate value systems with laws of nature.  Marx agreed 100% with reality of S&#038;D explained by Adam Smith.  The disagreement, as I&#8217;ve pointed out a hundred times, is on policy that will change the outcomes.  In a 100% socialized system the law of S&#038;D still exists, just not in the way a capitalist would describe as optimal efficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/12/12/yo-pod-10/#comment-53664</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2024 22:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/12/12/yo-pod-10/#comment-53657</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History (or its academic study) is a lot like Economics, and historians will be the first to admit it!

Historians recognize that there are no &quot;historical laws&quot; comparable to the infamous &quot;Law of Supply and Demand&quot;.  Like Economics, there is no way to set up controlled experiments to test hypotheses, and the collection and interpretation of data, or the prediction of outcomes, is extremely difficult (if not impossible) and can vary enormously amongst historians.

There are &quot;schools&quot; and &quot;theories&quot; and &quot;fashions&quot; that vary substantially over time and are constantly changing, not because new data is available, but because the discipline itself is constantly re-examining its assumptions and analyses.  These guys are always arguing with each other, and there is no organizing theory behind the discipline, like Atomic Theory in Chemistry or Classical, Relativity and Quantum Theory in Physics. Geology has Plate Tectonics, Biology has Evolution/DNA, Economics has two theories, Capitalism and Socialism, and there is no reconciling the two.

Come to think of it, academic Geography is also constantly re-evaluating its theories and abstractions.  I know, I have an MA in Geography and I was constantly arguing with my professors and fellow students about such unprovable concepts as &quot;Regional&quot; analysis and 
&quot;Central Place Theory&quot;, &quot;Land Use&quot;, &quot;Geopolitics&quot;  and &quot;The Propagation of Innovation Waves&quot;.
  
Geography is like history, except its about space instead of time.  These concepts are helpful, but they are not based on the usual scientific paradigm of observation, hypothesis and testing found in the hard sciences.  Keep in mind, when I studied Geography the modern age of computers and satellites and mathematical models had not yet taken hold.  It was all a lot of hand-waving and navel-gazing to this astronomer--vague patterns were visible but it was impossible to fit them into a conceptual schema that was open to systematic, critical analysis.

This is not to say that Geography, like History and Economics (and Philosophy) IS NOT a science.  But it is more akin to cultural anthropology or behavioral psychology. or sociology.  It is certainly worth studying and sometimes rigorous methods, like statistics, can be employed, but IT IS NOT A HARD SCIENCE.  New concepts and ideas are usually introduced as the revelation or insight of its practitioners, not because new data has turned up.  Remote sensing, data processing and Geographic Information Systems have made Geography a branch of engineering, I doubt if PhD candidates in the field even study &quot;Central Place Theory&quot; anymore.  They&#039;re all into spatial database design now.

Thanks for pointing that out.  I should have brought it up earlier myself, I survived three years of academic arguments as a Geographer. I should have picked up on it myself.

Again, I&#039;m not implying soft disciplines are somehow less important or easier than fields like Chemistry. Just that they are &lt;em&gt;different&lt;/em&gt;.  

Economists, OTOH, don&#039;t just want to be consulted, they are determined to be given the power to set policy and organize agencies.  They want a major role in formulating economic policy because, after all, &lt;em&gt;they are Scientists&lt;/em&gt;! In spite of this desire for legitimacy, they still can&#039;t give me a cogent explanation for why ice cream isn&#039;t cheaper in the winter. They don&#039;t want a seat at the table, they think they&#039;re entitled to run the whole shebang. So they tend to have lots of footnotes, equations and obscure diagrams in their monographs.  It makes it look like they really know what they are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History (or its academic study) is a lot like Economics, and historians will be the first to admit it!</p>
<p>Historians recognize that there are no &#8220;historical laws&#8221; comparable to the infamous &#8220;Law of Supply and Demand&#8221;.  Like Economics, there is no way to set up controlled experiments to test hypotheses, and the collection and interpretation of data, or the prediction of outcomes, is extremely difficult (if not impossible) and can vary enormously amongst historians.</p>
<p>There are &#8220;schools&#8221; and &#8220;theories&#8221; and &#8220;fashions&#8221; that vary substantially over time and are constantly changing, not because new data is available, but because the discipline itself is constantly re-examining its assumptions and analyses.  These guys are always arguing with each other, and there is no organizing theory behind the discipline, like Atomic Theory in Chemistry or Classical, Relativity and Quantum Theory in Physics. Geology has Plate Tectonics, Biology has Evolution/DNA, Economics has two theories, Capitalism and Socialism, and there is no reconciling the two.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, academic Geography is also constantly re-evaluating its theories and abstractions.  I know, I have an MA in Geography and I was constantly arguing with my professors and fellow students about such unprovable concepts as &#8220;Regional&#8221; analysis and<br />
&#8220;Central Place Theory&#8221;, &#8220;Land Use&#8221;, &#8220;Geopolitics&#8221;  and &#8220;The Propagation of Innovation Waves&#8221;.</p>
<p>Geography is like history, except its about space instead of time.  These concepts are helpful, but they are not based on the usual scientific paradigm of observation, hypothesis and testing found in the hard sciences.  Keep in mind, when I studied Geography the modern age of computers and satellites and mathematical models had not yet taken hold.  It was all a lot of hand-waving and navel-gazing to this astronomer&#8211;vague patterns were visible but it was impossible to fit them into a conceptual schema that was open to systematic, critical analysis.</p>
<p>This is not to say that Geography, like History and Economics (and Philosophy) IS NOT a science.  But it is more akin to cultural anthropology or behavioral psychology. or sociology.  It is certainly worth studying and sometimes rigorous methods, like statistics, can be employed, but IT IS NOT A HARD SCIENCE.  New concepts and ideas are usually introduced as the revelation or insight of its practitioners, not because new data has turned up.  Remote sensing, data processing and Geographic Information Systems have made Geography a branch of engineering, I doubt if PhD candidates in the field even study &#8220;Central Place Theory&#8221; anymore.  They&#8217;re all into spatial database design now.</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out.  I should have brought it up earlier myself, I survived three years of academic arguments as a Geographer. I should have picked up on it myself.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not implying soft disciplines are somehow less important or easier than fields like Chemistry. Just that they are <em>different</em>.  </p>
<p>Economists, OTOH, don&#8217;t just want to be consulted, they are determined to be given the power to set policy and organize agencies.  They want a major role in formulating economic policy because, after all, <em>they are Scientists</em>! In spite of this desire for legitimacy, they still can&#8217;t give me a cogent explanation for why ice cream isn&#8217;t cheaper in the winter. They don&#8217;t want a seat at the table, they think they&#8217;re entitled to run the whole shebang. So they tend to have lots of footnotes, equations and obscure diagrams in their monographs.  It makes it look like they really know what they are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/12/12/yo-pod-10/#comment-53656</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowadays, any discussion on the Zone is welcomed... n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowadays, any discussion on the Zone is welcomed&#8230; n/t</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/12/12/yo-pod-10/#comment-53655</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economic failures are due to flaws in human nature. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economic failures are due to flaws in human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re going to axe Economics, you might as well take down the study of History while you&#039;re at it. n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re going to axe Economics, you might as well take down the study of History while you&#8217;re at it. n/t</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/12/12/yo-pod-10/#comment-53653</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 05:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thsi discussion really doesn&#039;t belong here.  My bad for getting it rolling.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thsi discussion really doesn&#8217;t belong here.  My bad for getting it rolling.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/12/12/yo-pod-10/#comment-53652</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 05:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When professors try to use their knowledge of the laws of economics to promote their own politics.  It&#039;s soemthing both capitalists and socialists do. 

Marx fully understood the laws of economics, and fully agreed they were reality.  He simply sought policies to bend the results in a different direction.  The failures of communism were a result of overreach.  In modern mixed economies the moderate policies to smooth the rough edges of capitalism have been more successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When professors try to use their knowledge of the laws of economics to promote their own politics.  It&#8217;s soemthing both capitalists and socialists do. </p>
<p>Marx fully understood the laws of economics, and fully agreed they were reality.  He simply sought policies to bend the results in a different direction.  The failures of communism were a result of overreach.  In modern mixed economies the moderate policies to smooth the rough edges of capitalism have been more successful.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/12/12/yo-pod-10/#comment-53651</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 05:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t particularly disagree with my teachers, I just detected in them an unconscious effort to convince not just me, but themselves, that this wasn&#039;t &quot;the way things are&quot;, but that it was the &quot;way things had to be&quot;.  Or maybe I should say &quot;this is the way things OUGHT to be&quot;.

Marx was very familiar with Adam Smith.  He cited him frequently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t particularly disagree with my teachers, I just detected in them an unconscious effort to convince not just me, but themselves, that this wasn&#8217;t &#8220;the way things are&#8221;, but that it was the &#8220;way things had to be&#8221;.  Or maybe I should say &#8220;this is the way things OUGHT to be&#8221;.</p>
<p>Marx was very familiar with Adam Smith.  He cited him frequently.</p>
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