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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/05/17/ai-image/#comment-53086</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 20:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artists used to need to know how to mix their own paints and pigments from scratch, now they buy them at the store.  And some skills were considered mechanical and routine (like line drawing) and were passed off to apprentices and assistants.  And skills like coding and software design are, in a way, art forms as well  Being able to communicate with an AI will no doubt develop as an art form all its own.

I don&#039;t fear machines destroying our humanity. What I fear is machines replacing human control and management and prioritizing cost-effectiveness and profit over performance, safety and efficiency. Technology has always altered the way we do things, but now it threatens the how and why.

Scientists used to need to know how to sketch and draw, cameras do that now.  Scientists needed to be able to write notes longhand, legibly, in the dark, now they can record their voice.  But we should never surrender our responsibility to design our research programs and develop protocols.  And its not just science we need to worry about.  The way we run our economy and our businesses, or our government and our military, should never be handed over to accountants, especially automated ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artists used to need to know how to mix their own paints and pigments from scratch, now they buy them at the store.  And some skills were considered mechanical and routine (like line drawing) and were passed off to apprentices and assistants.  And skills like coding and software design are, in a way, art forms as well  Being able to communicate with an AI will no doubt develop as an art form all its own.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t fear machines destroying our humanity. What I fear is machines replacing human control and management and prioritizing cost-effectiveness and profit over performance, safety and efficiency. Technology has always altered the way we do things, but now it threatens the how and why.</p>
<p>Scientists used to need to know how to sketch and draw, cameras do that now.  Scientists needed to be able to write notes longhand, legibly, in the dark, now they can record their voice.  But we should never surrender our responsibility to design our research programs and develop protocols.  And its not just science we need to worry about.  The way we run our economy and our businesses, or our government and our military, should never be handed over to accountants, especially automated ones.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/05/17/ai-image/#comment-53085</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 19:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computers ARE good at that sort of thing... the 3d modeling software I use uses sophisticated ray tracing and mathematics to render physically accurate shadows reflection, and refraction... but that is not what these examples are using...

This is done by AI. A totally different process. It renders based on what you write in your prompt. There is no physical raytracing, it is drawing upon countless billions of other images to come up with what it &#039;thinks&#039; you want.

There is already talk of combining AI with Blender (the software  i use) to automate some of the tasks ... we are looking at a disturbing revolution... what happens to artistry? Creativity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computers ARE good at that sort of thing&#8230; the 3d modeling software I use uses sophisticated ray tracing and mathematics to render physically accurate shadows reflection, and refraction&#8230; but that is not what these examples are using&#8230;</p>
<p>This is done by AI. A totally different process. It renders based on what you write in your prompt. There is no physical raytracing, it is drawing upon countless billions of other images to come up with what it &#8216;thinks&#8217; you want.</p>
<p>There is already talk of combining AI with Blender (the software  i use) to automate some of the tasks &#8230; we are looking at a disturbing revolution&#8230; what happens to artistry? Creativity?</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/05/17/ai-image/#comment-53084</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 14:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shadows are wrong.  In both cases, the source of illumination can be easily determined, but shadows cast by the space-suited figures do not line up with it.  

The error is noticeable in both images.  The cast shadow and sun are off by about 20 degrees in the burning earth image and they are off by ninety degrees in the lunar banquet scene. The solar location can be inferred by the way the earth is illuminated in the latter, and by direct inspection in the former.

The sun is shown near Orion&#039;s Belt in the burning earth image, which is the location of the celestial equator.  The sun DOES cross the equator, at the equinoxes (traditionally Aries and Libra, Pisces and Virgo today due to precession), but NOT in Orion.

Some details, like candles burning in vacuum or flames outside earth&#039;s atmosphere, can be forgiven as humorous exaggeration or artistic metaphor.  But getting the astronomy wrong is unforgivable.

I know I&#039;m nit-picking here, but isn&#039;t that what computers are supposed to be good at?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shadows are wrong.  In both cases, the source of illumination can be easily determined, but shadows cast by the space-suited figures do not line up with it.  </p>
<p>The error is noticeable in both images.  The cast shadow and sun are off by about 20 degrees in the burning earth image and they are off by ninety degrees in the lunar banquet scene. The solar location can be inferred by the way the earth is illuminated in the latter, and by direct inspection in the former.</p>
<p>The sun is shown near Orion&#8217;s Belt in the burning earth image, which is the location of the celestial equator.  The sun DOES cross the equator, at the equinoxes (traditionally Aries and Libra, Pisces and Virgo today due to precession), but NOT in Orion.</p>
<p>Some details, like candles burning in vacuum or flames outside earth&#8217;s atmosphere, can be forgiven as humorous exaggeration or artistic metaphor.  But getting the astronomy wrong is unforgivable.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m nit-picking here, but isn&#8217;t that what computers are supposed to be good at?</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/05/17/ai-image/#comment-53083</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/05/17/ai-image/#comment-53082</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 00:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/05/17/ai-image/#comment-53081</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 00:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 00:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd, let me try another way</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2024/05/17/ai-image/#comment-53079</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2024 15:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see it...

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