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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2022/01/06/look-at-all-of-the-people-fighting-for-me/#comment-48032</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 20:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burnt toast.</description>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2022/01/06/look-at-all-of-the-people-fighting-for-me/#comment-48025</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does everyone here understand that?
Do you have a plan for that eventuality?

Because I sure as hell don&#039;t. 
I can see the train coming, but I see no fucking way to get off the track.

I DO know that making the fascists feel a little more comfortable while they destroy our nation is NOT the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does everyone here understand that?<br />
Do you have a plan for that eventuality?</p>
<p>Because I sure as hell don&#8217;t.<br />
I can see the train coming, but I see no fucking way to get off the track.</p>
<p>I DO know that making the fascists feel a little more comfortable while they destroy our nation is NOT the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2022/01/06/look-at-all-of-the-people-fighting-for-me/#comment-48024</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reserve the right to be wrong. Thanks Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reserve the right to be wrong. Thanks Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a leg to stand on. They were both amputated last Jan 6. n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a leg to stand on. They were both amputated last Jan 6. n/t</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moved to Flame</description>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2022/01/06/look-at-all-of-the-people-fighting-for-me/#comment-48021</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did reach one person, me. Both you and ER are effective in making someone examine their own beliefs. It goes against human nature to think you may be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did reach one person, me. Both you and ER are effective in making someone examine their own beliefs. It goes against human nature to think you may be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2022/01/06/look-at-all-of-the-people-fighting-for-me/#comment-48020</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have friends who are still supporters of the former guy. For years I tried everything. Calmly listening, hearing them out, trying to match their feelings before expressing my concerns. Tried sending them articles about his many lies and deceptions. Nothing works. Or, they will say they don&#039;t like his values, but as long as he cuts taxes, or whatever, it doesn&#039;t matter that he is a wife cheating, tax evading, shitty business man. (Stonekettle also is fond of saying that if you elect a business person president, you&#039;ll get the business, and hard.)

Now, I change the topic. I never bring it up. They always do, though. Little remarks thrown in randomly while we are talking football, or movies, or whatever. The little snide asides designed with the sole purpose of getting me upset. 

No sale.

And RL is right, the Republican Party of my parents is gone. It is dead. The few holdouts are in a life raft heading into a primary squall. Look at the lunatics holding office, including from my own state. The gun fetishists posing for Christmas photos with their families and their arsenal. They are changing laws in states to keep people from voting. Have you seen the videos of school board meeting where these people are just insane? You&#039;ve seen and heard the death threats against not only the liberals but the conservative who don&#039;t kiss Trump&#039;s rump? Horrible, vile things. Doxing of childrens&#039; homes? TFG unleased the crazy in America, harnessed it, and rides it like a pale horse of doom.

I recommend reading my comment above (The Horror) about Steve Bathtub Bannon. This is the new Republican Party&#039;s think tank. And he is far from alone. How do you change his mind when his goal, his stated goal, is to destroy the government of the US. Remember the phrase from the 1990&#039;s, starve the government until you can drown it in a bathtub? You know that the John Burch Society, that group of crazy conspiracy theorists from the 1950&#039;s is resurgent? They were too wacky for real Republicans back in the day.

Yeah, I get angry. I know it will not change a single mind. In my experience kindness doesn&#039;t work either. So I&#039;ll rant here when I feel like getting it out of my limbic system and VOTE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have friends who are still supporters of the former guy. For years I tried everything. Calmly listening, hearing them out, trying to match their feelings before expressing my concerns. Tried sending them articles about his many lies and deceptions. Nothing works. Or, they will say they don&#8217;t like his values, but as long as he cuts taxes, or whatever, it doesn&#8217;t matter that he is a wife cheating, tax evading, shitty business man. (Stonekettle also is fond of saying that if you elect a business person president, you&#8217;ll get the business, and hard.)</p>
<p>Now, I change the topic. I never bring it up. They always do, though. Little remarks thrown in randomly while we are talking football, or movies, or whatever. The little snide asides designed with the sole purpose of getting me upset. </p>
<p>No sale.</p>
<p>And RL is right, the Republican Party of my parents is gone. It is dead. The few holdouts are in a life raft heading into a primary squall. Look at the lunatics holding office, including from my own state. The gun fetishists posing for Christmas photos with their families and their arsenal. They are changing laws in states to keep people from voting. Have you seen the videos of school board meeting where these people are just insane? You&#8217;ve seen and heard the death threats against not only the liberals but the conservative who don&#8217;t kiss Trump&#8217;s rump? Horrible, vile things. Doxing of childrens&#8217; homes? TFG unleased the crazy in America, harnessed it, and rides it like a pale horse of doom.</p>
<p>I recommend reading my comment above (The Horror) about Steve Bathtub Bannon. This is the new Republican Party&#8217;s think tank. And he is far from alone. How do you change his mind when his goal, his stated goal, is to destroy the government of the US. Remember the phrase from the 1990&#8242;s, starve the government until you can drown it in a bathtub? You know that the John Burch Society, that group of crazy conspiracy theorists from the 1950&#8242;s is resurgent? They were too wacky for real Republicans back in the day.</p>
<p>Yeah, I get angry. I know it will not change a single mind. In my experience kindness doesn&#8217;t work either. So I&#8217;ll rant here when I feel like getting it out of my limbic system and VOTE.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not painting them with a broad brush, the fact is they stripped naked, rolled around in paint while laughing like idiots and they want us to now pretend we don&#039;t notice.

The VERY few republicans that take a stand against the big lie are subject to official sanction by their party, they get death threats, they lose their positions.

The GOP IS the party of Trump, it IS the party of the big lie, it IS the party of conspiracy theory, it IS the party actively trying to destroy democracy, it IS the party of COVID denial. Pointing that out is a statement of fact, not a slander.

If you vote Republican then you are supporting all that- you might lie to yourself and say its because you support &#039;conservative values&#039;, but you know damn well the GOP hasn&#039;t stood for those values in decades, if they EVER did...

They only stand for &#039;owning the libs&#039; and seizing power, by any means necessary- they WILL kill our democracy in the next few years- you either support that or you draw up battle lines against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not painting them with a broad brush, the fact is they stripped naked, rolled around in paint while laughing like idiots and they want us to now pretend we don&#8217;t notice.</p>
<p>The VERY few republicans that take a stand against the big lie are subject to official sanction by their party, they get death threats, they lose their positions.</p>
<p>The GOP IS the party of Trump, it IS the party of the big lie, it IS the party of conspiracy theory, it IS the party actively trying to destroy democracy, it IS the party of COVID denial. Pointing that out is a statement of fact, not a slander.</p>
<p>If you vote Republican then you are supporting all that- you might lie to yourself and say its because you support &#8216;conservative values&#8217;, but you know damn well the GOP hasn&#8217;t stood for those values in decades, if they EVER did&#8230;</p>
<p>They only stand for &#8216;owning the libs&#8217; and seizing power, by any means necessary- they WILL kill our democracy in the next few years- you either support that or you draw up battle lines against it.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The quoted text swings both ways. You&#039;ve painted all Republicans with one broad stroke. The wording in the article is good example of how not to make a change. 
The problem is, nobody wants to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The quoted text swings both ways. You&#8217;ve painted all Republicans with one broad stroke. The wording in the article is good example of how not to make a change.<br />
The problem is, nobody wants to.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 07:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck you.
 They-and you- have earned every bit of contempt the decent human beings of this world can throw your way. 

The fascists aren&#039;t &#039;misunderstood&#039;, they are deplorable, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.habitablezone.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/JODY-Deplorable.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;they fucking celebrate the fact they are deplorable&lt;/a&gt;, they glorify the fact that they are monsters. There is no misunderstanding, there is no bridge across that divide, and it is immoral to try and build that bridge.

You don&#039;t get to spend 5 years cheering for &#039;liberal tears&#039; and then get to turn around and whine that it&#039;s unfair that we are disgusted by what you chose to stand for.

The fascist right is killing our nation and in the next few years they will overthrow our democracy... And you gleefully helped that happen even as we pointed out the obvious to you.

So no Rob, You worked for the disgust and contempt, you fucking EARNED it, by God you will get what&#039;s due to you.

You bigots have killed, and are killing  entire cities worth of Americans, and many times that number will die when your side destroys our democracy... Exactly WHAT sort of kindness are we supposed to show to you in return?

What fucking respect is due to a fascist movement consumed by violent conspiracy theories? Conspiracy theories that have been cooked up specifically to justify deadly violence against liberals and minorities?

Just what do you think treating the monsters with respect will do to improve things? Do you think the creatures you allied yourself with will suddenly embrace democracy? Do you think they will stop their efforts to overturn elections that go against them? Do you think the multi billion dollar right wing  media empires will suddenly stop trying to whip the monsters up into a murderous rage?

Fuck you, fuck them... You WILL fucking regret what you chose to be a part of. If you were half a man you would already be too ashamed to breathe.

But a day WILL come when the realization FINALLY crashes through your thick goddamn skull...

I would say &#039;May God help you then&#039;, but God will be too fucking busy tallying up your victims.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck you.<br />
 They-and you- have earned every bit of contempt the decent human beings of this world can throw your way. </p>
<p>The fascists aren&#8217;t &#8216;misunderstood&#8217;, they are deplorable, <a href="https://www.habitablezone.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/JODY-Deplorable.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">they fucking celebrate the fact they are deplorable</a>, they glorify the fact that they are monsters. There is no misunderstanding, there is no bridge across that divide, and it is immoral to try and build that bridge.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get to spend 5 years cheering for &#8216;liberal tears&#8217; and then get to turn around and whine that it&#8217;s unfair that we are disgusted by what you chose to stand for.</p>
<p>The fascist right is killing our nation and in the next few years they will overthrow our democracy&#8230; And you gleefully helped that happen even as we pointed out the obvious to you.</p>
<p>So no Rob, You worked for the disgust and contempt, you fucking EARNED it, by God you will get what&#8217;s due to you.</p>
<p>You bigots have killed, and are killing  entire cities worth of Americans, and many times that number will die when your side destroys our democracy&#8230; Exactly WHAT sort of kindness are we supposed to show to you in return?</p>
<p>What fucking respect is due to a fascist movement consumed by violent conspiracy theories? Conspiracy theories that have been cooked up specifically to justify deadly violence against liberals and minorities?</p>
<p>Just what do you think treating the monsters with respect will do to improve things? Do you think the creatures you allied yourself with will suddenly embrace democracy? Do you think they will stop their efforts to overturn elections that go against them? Do you think the multi billion dollar right wing  media empires will suddenly stop trying to whip the monsters up into a murderous rage?</p>
<p>Fuck you, fuck them&#8230; You WILL fucking regret what you chose to be a part of. If you were half a man you would already be too ashamed to breathe.</p>
<p>But a day WILL come when the realization FINALLY crashes through your thick goddamn skull&#8230;</p>
<p>I would say &#8216;May God help you then&#8217;, but God will be too fucking busy tallying up your victims.</p>
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