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		<title>By: Vitruvius</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46186</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitruvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2020 06:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everyone&#039;s definition of &quot;deity&quot; (i.e. god/s) is the same.  Depending on the definition, you run the paradox that the moment a god is discovered, it&#039;s no longer a god - merely a very powerful being, perfectly within our laws of physics.

Then again, a distinction &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; be drawn between &quot;Supreme Creator&quot; and &quot;Supreme Architect&quot;.  I wonder how our Founding Fathers rationalised it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone&#8217;s definition of &#8220;deity&#8221; (i.e. god/s) is the same.  Depending on the definition, you run the paradox that the moment a god is discovered, it&#8217;s no longer a god &#8211; merely a very powerful being, perfectly within our laws of physics.</p>
<p>Then again, a distinction <i>could</i> be drawn between &#8220;Supreme Creator&#8221; and &#8220;Supreme Architect&#8221;.  I wonder how our Founding Fathers rationalised it?</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46172</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2020 21:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We prefer our gods to be omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.

Omnipotent, because we are so weak.
Omniscient. because we are so ignorant.
Eternal, because we want to live forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We prefer our gods to be omnipotent, omniscient and eternal.</p>
<p>Omnipotent, because we are so weak.<br />
Omniscient. because we are so ignorant.<br />
Eternal, because we want to live forever.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46171</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2020 20:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And its only my opinion, since this question (the existence of god)has no answer.  We simply don&#039;t have enough information to answer it. We don&#039;t even have enough information to properly formulate a question.

However, I believe there is absolutely no &lt;em&gt;evidence &lt;/em&gt;of the existence of
god. That doesn&#039;t necessarily mean he doesn&#039;t exist, but even if god does exist, we have absolutely no knowledge of his properties, characteristics, motives, or expectations of us.  We have no idea of his role in the creation or management of the universe, relation to human morality or ethics. And there is no way to determine any of this. We can&#039;t even say with any degree of certainty whether god is even aware of our existence. And if he is aware, does he care?  After all, I know that there are bacteria living in the soil of my garden, and I may even know they are important, but I know nothing about them.  I&#039;m sure they know even less about me.

In other words, he, she, them or it doesn&#039;t matter, and it is a waste of time and energy to worry about it at all.  I believe the reason people believe in god is that we are programmed by evolution to want to live as long as possible, and god is one way we can convince ourselves we will exist after death.  That fear and that feeling is so strong that we delude ourselves into thinking there is a god so we can live forever.  

Now maybe there is a god, and maybe that is why he&#039;s there.  But I don&#039;t know that, there is no way I could know that even if it was true, and it is such a tempting thought that I&#039;m not surprised a lot of people have convinced themselves to believe it.

So in order to live my life with some reason, dignity, consistency and order I choose not to believe in god. It makes everything else much simpler. If he wants me to think otherwise, he knows where I am, all he has to do is talk to me. IF there IS a god, I don&#039;t think he would punish me for not believing in him.  That makes no sense at all. A god like that would be a real prick.

I believe there is a real universe and that it operates mainly by pure random chance, although it is constrained from total chaos by a few physical laws.  It clearly exhibits pattern and order, but I see no evidence that it has a purpose. I believe I am a subset of that universe that has achieved some limited self-awareness and some ability to interact with my surroundings.   

Actually, that&#039;s not a bad deal at all. In fact, I think it&#039;s wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And its only my opinion, since this question (the existence of god)has no answer.  We simply don&#8217;t have enough information to answer it. We don&#8217;t even have enough information to properly formulate a question.</p>
<p>However, I believe there is absolutely no <em>evidence </em>of the existence of<br />
god. That doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean he doesn&#8217;t exist, but even if god does exist, we have absolutely no knowledge of his properties, characteristics, motives, or expectations of us.  We have no idea of his role in the creation or management of the universe, relation to human morality or ethics. And there is no way to determine any of this. We can&#8217;t even say with any degree of certainty whether god is even aware of our existence. And if he is aware, does he care?  After all, I know that there are bacteria living in the soil of my garden, and I may even know they are important, but I know nothing about them.  I&#8217;m sure they know even less about me.</p>
<p>In other words, he, she, them or it doesn&#8217;t matter, and it is a waste of time and energy to worry about it at all.  I believe the reason people believe in god is that we are programmed by evolution to want to live as long as possible, and god is one way we can convince ourselves we will exist after death.  That fear and that feeling is so strong that we delude ourselves into thinking there is a god so we can live forever.  </p>
<p>Now maybe there is a god, and maybe that is why he&#8217;s there.  But I don&#8217;t know that, there is no way I could know that even if it was true, and it is such a tempting thought that I&#8217;m not surprised a lot of people have convinced themselves to believe it.</p>
<p>So in order to live my life with some reason, dignity, consistency and order I choose not to believe in god. It makes everything else much simpler. If he wants me to think otherwise, he knows where I am, all he has to do is talk to me. IF there IS a god, I don&#8217;t think he would punish me for not believing in him.  That makes no sense at all. A god like that would be a real prick.</p>
<p>I believe there is a real universe and that it operates mainly by pure random chance, although it is constrained from total chaos by a few physical laws.  It clearly exhibits pattern and order, but I see no evidence that it has a purpose. I believe I am a subset of that universe that has achieved some limited self-awareness and some ability to interact with my surroundings.   </p>
<p>Actually, that&#8217;s not a bad deal at all. In fact, I think it&#8217;s wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46167</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those odds change only when the god is revealed. If no god is ever found anywhere in or out of the universe, the odds remain 50/50.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those odds change only when the god is revealed. If no god is ever found anywhere in or out of the universe, the odds remain 50/50.</p>
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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46166</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Hubble recordings of the time -- no one knows how or why it all came to be, it just did. Ready-made fuel for mythology.

Open a text book and learn of the sciences involved.

Then, and only then, take the next step...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Hubble recordings of the time &#8212; no one knows how or why it all came to be, it just did. Ready-made fuel for mythology.</p>
<p>Open a text book and learn of the sciences involved.</p>
<p>Then, and only then, take the next step&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46139</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2020 18:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The god that can be named is not the real god.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The god that can be named is not the real god.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Vitruvius</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46128</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitruvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2020 04:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roughly 50/50 either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roughly 50/50 either way.</p>
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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46086</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Runic dice are more fun -- or is that Dungeons and Dragons...? ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Runic dice are more fun &#8212; or is that Dungeons and Dragons&#8230;? ;^)</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46085</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2020 05:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These rules have been here since the beginning- predating humanity, our solar system and our galaxy.

The workings of the universe follow very precise and often complex rules, and are capable of giving rise to a wealth of awesome phenomena. 

In the eons that humanity existed in ignorance of these rules, we invented gods to explain the phenomena we witnessed- it is understandable that we did so- without any knowledge of optics and the nature of light, a rainbow could be reasonably interpreted as a supernatural sign from god.

They gave rise to stone-age stories around the campfire, that became bronze-age mythologies, which in turn became Iron-age organized religions...

The problem comes when people cling to these notions to the exclusion of everything else in the scientific age... clinging to stone-age notions when humanity lives in a world where it is critical that decisions be made based on facts is a recipe for disaster.

When we now live in a world where people are denied equal rights because some people believe their invisible sky-daddy has hang-ups about sexuality, well... the only word for it is insanity...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These rules have been here since the beginning- predating humanity, our solar system and our galaxy.</p>
<p>The workings of the universe follow very precise and often complex rules, and are capable of giving rise to a wealth of awesome phenomena. </p>
<p>In the eons that humanity existed in ignorance of these rules, we invented gods to explain the phenomena we witnessed- it is understandable that we did so- without any knowledge of optics and the nature of light, a rainbow could be reasonably interpreted as a supernatural sign from god.</p>
<p>They gave rise to stone-age stories around the campfire, that became bronze-age mythologies, which in turn became Iron-age organized religions&#8230;</p>
<p>The problem comes when people cling to these notions to the exclusion of everything else in the scientific age&#8230; clinging to stone-age notions when humanity lives in a world where it is critical that decisions be made based on facts is a recipe for disaster.</p>
<p>When we now live in a world where people are denied equal rights because some people believe their invisible sky-daddy has hang-ups about sexuality, well&#8230; the only word for it is insanity&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2020/11/25/god/#comment-46084</link>
		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2020 02:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science is the creation of man, space, mass and energy are not. How did space, mass and energy come into existence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science is the creation of man, space, mass and energy are not. How did space, mass and energy come into existence?</p>
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