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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 03:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of having just the right mix of ingredients, cooking temperature, and time. Statistically, this must happen elsewhere, given the size of the galaxy/universe.

As I mentioned earlier, I am fascinated at how life &quot;terraforms&quot; a planet. But it does it in waves, in fits-n-starts, sometimes the bio-products exceed tipping points, things crash, then build again. Evolving life can destroy itself then pick up again, both altered by and altering its environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of having just the right mix of ingredients, cooking temperature, and time. Statistically, this must happen elsewhere, given the size of the galaxy/universe.</p>
<p>As I mentioned earlier, I am fascinated at how life &#8220;terraforms&#8221; a planet. But it does it in waves, in fits-n-starts, sometimes the bio-products exceed tipping points, things crash, then build again. Evolving life can destroy itself then pick up again, both altered by and altering its environment.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 03:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. P.

We take turns.</description>
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<p>We take turns.</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2020 22:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophistry is the true sin.

Precision and accuracy in intellectual matters is a laudable goal. For my own part, I respect academic rigor, I do not see it, as has lately become fashionable in our country, as treasonous, seditious, conceited and effeminate.

My whole point is that I am starting to see the rise of multicellular organisms as possibly being an inevitable step in the evolution of life, not just a happy accident in our lonely little corner of the cosmos.  The consequences for CETI are profound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophistry is the true sin.</p>
<p>Precision and accuracy in intellectual matters is a laudable goal. For my own part, I respect academic rigor, I do not see it, as has lately become fashionable in our country, as treasonous, seditious, conceited and effeminate.</p>
<p>My whole point is that I am starting to see the rise of multicellular organisms as possibly being an inevitable step in the evolution of life, not just a happy accident in our lonely little corner of the cosmos.  The consequences for CETI are profound.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2020 22:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a better write-up of the snowball earth article:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200507130704.htm

Also, hank, I can see why including the Edicarian in a term like &quot;Precambrian Explosion&quot; is sort of technically correct. It bothers me though. Is it because I learned it as Cambrian Explosion, or that I don&#039;t think the life in the Edicarian was as big an acceleration as the Cambrian, or that maybe the boundary for the Phanerozoic/Precambrian should be moved to reflect our growing knowledge, otherwise Neoproterozic Explosion is too much of a mouthful? Not sure. But I do know I was being pedantic. Sorry &#039;bout that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a better write-up of the snowball earth article:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200507130704.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200507130704.htm</a></p>
<p>Also, hank, I can see why including the Edicarian in a term like &#8220;Precambrian Explosion&#8221; is sort of technically correct. It bothers me though. Is it because I learned it as Cambrian Explosion, or that I don&#8217;t think the life in the Edicarian was as big an acceleration as the Cambrian, or that maybe the boundary for the Phanerozoic/Precambrian should be moved to reflect our growing knowledge, otherwise Neoproterozic Explosion is too much of a mouthful? Not sure. But I do know I was being pedantic. Sorry &#8217;bout that.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2020 03:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see the siphonophore?

&lt;a href=&quot;https://boingboing.net/2020/04/16/giant-string-like-creature-com.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://boingboing.net/2020/04/16/giant-string-like-creature-com.html&lt;/a&gt;

Hate to take out the red pen on you hank, but as a teacher with no class: it&#039;s the Cambrian Explosion. 

Stromatolites were more microbial mats (mostly cyanobacteria) than anything as organized as a sponge. But both filter feeders, sooo...

Been reading some new research on Snowball Earth (&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/world/pikes-peak-great-unconformity-study-scn-trnd/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cnn&lt;/a&gt; -long story here*, I know this outcrop and one of the authors) and I personally think that this is what kept multicellular life from exploding far earlier in earth&#039;s history. But it could have been the terraforming of the atmosphere done by early lifeforms that could have caused the freezing feedback loop. 

But yes, I do think there is this slow but sure way of creating multicellular life and higher life forms by increasing the cooperation of individuals. (competition too, but it&#039;s a balance.) I was fascinated by an idea I heard years ago about how the first cells formed. The question was how did these proteins and amino acids manage to create a sphere to contain themselves. The hypothesis was they started out in two dimensions, not three, organizing between the cleavages (crystallographic layers) of clay minerals. They didn&#039;t need to create a whole sphere, just a fence. Eventually, these fences shrunk in area until the surface tension led to creating spheres. 

Finally, I&#039;m not real convinced by the tiny leaf fossil shown at the link. I&#039;d have to see the cited paper or others describing these rocks.

The final sentence of the abstract is always the big take-away. Even a billion years a hell of a long time ago on a tectonically active planet. 

Thanks for the link.

* I wrote a big long post about this article, how it doesn&#039;t really get into what the scientific paper is about, but lost it to a bad keystroke. ARRRRgggg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see the siphonophore?</p>
<p><a href="https://boingboing.net/2020/04/16/giant-string-like-creature-com.html" rel="nofollow">https://boingboing.net/2020/04/16/giant-string-like-creature-com.html</a></p>
<p>Hate to take out the red pen on you hank, but as a teacher with no class: it&#8217;s the Cambrian Explosion. </p>
<p>Stromatolites were more microbial mats (mostly cyanobacteria) than anything as organized as a sponge. But both filter feeders, sooo&#8230;</p>
<p>Been reading some new research on Snowball Earth (<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/world/pikes-peak-great-unconformity-study-scn-trnd/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold" rel="nofollow">cnn</a> -long story here*, I know this outcrop and one of the authors) and I personally think that this is what kept multicellular life from exploding far earlier in earth&#8217;s history. But it could have been the terraforming of the atmosphere done by early lifeforms that could have caused the freezing feedback loop. </p>
<p>But yes, I do think there is this slow but sure way of creating multicellular life and higher life forms by increasing the cooperation of individuals. (competition too, but it&#8217;s a balance.) I was fascinated by an idea I heard years ago about how the first cells formed. The question was how did these proteins and amino acids manage to create a sphere to contain themselves. The hypothesis was they started out in two dimensions, not three, organizing between the cleavages (crystallographic layers) of clay minerals. They didn&#8217;t need to create a whole sphere, just a fence. Eventually, these fences shrunk in area until the surface tension led to creating spheres. </p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;m not real convinced by the tiny leaf fossil shown at the link. I&#8217;d have to see the cited paper or others describing these rocks.</p>
<p>The final sentence of the abstract is always the big take-away. Even a billion years a hell of a long time ago on a tectonically active planet. </p>
<p>Thanks for the link.</p>
<p>* I wrote a big long post about this article, how it doesn&#8217;t really get into what the scientific paper is about, but lost it to a bad keystroke. ARRRRgggg</p>
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