Comments on: Trump pulls out of Syria. https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/12/19/trump-pulls-out-of-syria/ Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:41:18 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ER https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/12/19/trump-pulls-out-of-syria/#comment-42637 ER Thu, 20 Dec 2018 13:25:28 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=74890#comment-42637 How about "forced". This is intimately connected to Turkey's role in bringing down the Saudis in the Kashoggi affair. Saudi Arabia is a prime Trump ally in Trump's war on Iran. Without them, we can't pressure the mullahs or keep oil prices low; not to mention all the business we do with the Kingdom that the Donald is so keen on. Erdogan's ultimate goal is to set himself up as a fascist dictator for life, and to become a Muslim leader in the middle east as well as a key player in the EU and Nato. Now he knows he won't get any pushback from the USA. Not that I blame him, Russia's on his doorstep and he knows he can't count on America for help. Erdogan is blackmailing Trump, just like Putin is (but for different reasons). But its not "collusion". It's just shameful. How about “forced”.

This is intimately connected to Turkey’s role in bringing down the Saudis in the Kashoggi affair. Saudi Arabia is a prime Trump ally in Trump’s war on Iran. Without them, we can’t pressure the mullahs or keep oil prices low; not to mention all the business we do with the Kingdom that the Donald is so keen on. Erdogan’s ultimate goal is to set himself up as a fascist dictator for life, and to become a Muslim leader in the middle east as well as a key player in the EU and Nato. Now he knows he won’t get any pushback from the USA. Not that I blame him, Russia’s on his doorstep and he knows he can’t count on America for help.

Erdogan is blackmailing Trump, just like Putin is (but for different reasons). But its not “collusion”. It’s just shameful.

]]> By: BuckGalaxy https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/12/19/trump-pulls-out-of-syria/#comment-42636 BuckGalaxy Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:20:12 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=74890#comment-42636 So Erdogan would have a free hand to wipe out the Kurds. The same Kurds who helped us defeat ISIS and who we were training to take over the area so we could leave later. The horror of this presidency is unending. So Erdogan would have a free hand to wipe out the Kurds. The same Kurds who helped us defeat ISIS and who we were training to take over the area so we could leave later. The horror of this presidency is unending.

]]> By: ER https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/12/19/trump-pulls-out-of-syria/#comment-42634 ER Thu, 20 Dec 2018 03:31:42 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=74890#comment-42634 Putin got Syria for free and he's in tight with Iran. He's threatened the US-Saudi alliance and the US-Turkey alliance. And Trump is going to throw the Kurds under the bus. No one in that part of the world will ever trust us again. Putin has managed to make points with both the Sunnis and the Shia sides of Islam. He's got the US and China in a face-off over Korea and the S China Sea. And he's got the whole world asking <em>"What the fuck is wrong with the United States of America?" </em> Our enemies are emboldened and our allies are terrified. Its a masterful accomplishment. And in just two years! Hari Seldon would have been proud. Putin got Syria for free and he’s in tight with Iran.

He’s threatened the US-Saudi alliance and the US-Turkey
alliance. And Trump is going to throw the Kurds under the bus. No one in that part of the world will ever trust us again.

Putin has managed to make points with both the Sunnis and the Shia sides of Islam. He’s got the US and China in a face-off over Korea and the S China Sea. And he’s got the whole world asking “What the fuck is wrong with the United States of America?” Our enemies are emboldened and our allies are terrified.

Its a masterful accomplishment. And in just two years! Hari Seldon would have been proud.

]]> By: RL https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/12/19/trump-pulls-out-of-syria/#comment-42633 RL Thu, 20 Dec 2018 02:55:54 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=74890#comment-42633 Putin sure got a bargain... Putin sure got a bargain…

]]> By: ER https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/12/19/trump-pulls-out-of-syria/#comment-42632 ER Thu, 20 Dec 2018 02:42:36 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=74890#comment-42632 Stopping a war is a useful distraction when your administration is in trouble. At any rate, its better than STARTING a war to divert attention. Although I have a feeling Trump might try both if one alone doesn't work. Stopping a war is a useful distraction when your administration is in trouble. At any rate, its better than STARTING a war to divert attention.

Although I have a feeling Trump might try both if one alone doesn’t work.

]]> By: RL https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/12/19/trump-pulls-out-of-syria/#comment-42631 RL Thu, 20 Dec 2018 02:08:06 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=74890#comment-42631 Didn't he say he would listen to the generals? Didn’t he say he would listen to the generals?

]]> By: RL https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/12/19/trump-pulls-out-of-syria/#comment-42629 RL Thu, 20 Dec 2018 01:03:16 +0000 https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=74890#comment-42629 <blockquote>We had a president who decided he’d announce a date and he was going to get out by that date. The problem is the enemy, which really turned out to be ISIS, the enemy was sitting back and actually didn’t believe that this could be happening. … That they would actually say when they were getting out. So they sat back and they sat back … but instead of allowing some small forces behind to maybe, just maybe, keep it under control, and we pulled it out eventually. … And then we decimated one of the powers and we unleashed fury all over the Middle East. It was a terrible mistake. And then Obama came in and normally you want to clean up, he made a bigger mess out of it. … And then you had Hillary with Libya. So sad. In fact, in many respects you know they honor President Obama. ISIS is honoring President Obama. He is the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder. He founded ISIS. And I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton, co-founder.</blockquote>

We had a president who decided he’d announce a date and he was going to get out by that date. The problem is the enemy, which really turned out to be ISIS, the enemy was sitting back and actually didn’t believe that this could be happening. … That they would actually say when they were getting out. So they sat back and they sat back … but instead of allowing some small forces behind to maybe, just maybe, keep it under control, and we pulled it out eventually. …

And then we decimated one of the powers and we unleashed fury all over the Middle East. It was a terrible mistake. And then Obama came in and normally you want to clean up, he made a bigger mess out of it. … And then you had Hillary with Libya. So sad.

In fact, in many respects you know they honor President Obama. ISIS is honoring President Obama. He is the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder. He founded ISIS. And I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton, co-founder.

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