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	<title>Comments on: The rats start to flee the ship&#8230; forgetting that they long ago chained themselves to the anchor&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2018 01:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I think I now know where to find our cowardly conservative komrades...

Those sites have throngs of armchair revolutionaries giddily advocating for a military coup and wholesale slaughter of &#039;the libs&#039;... along with various other undesirable groups... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I think I now know where to find our cowardly conservative komrades&#8230;</p>
<p>Those sites have throngs of armchair revolutionaries giddily advocating for a military coup and wholesale slaughter of &#8216;the libs&#8217;&#8230; along with various other undesirable groups&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2018 17:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...disguised as a pre-emptive strike against a left-wing coup.

Perhaps the Trump gang had nothing to do with this, but it is pretty clear how it worked right into their other plans. &quot;The Storm&quot; sounds like perfect cover for a fascist takeover of the US Government.  Its the narrative designed to make martial law, muzzling of the press, and the cancellation of elections (or of ignoring their results) possible.  If that tool was ever needed, it would already be oiled and sharpened, hanging on the pegboard ready for use.

Again, I have no evidence that the Trump administration had anything to do with QAnon, or even that they planned to take advantage of its presence or propaganda, but it is certain that whoever is behind the Q phenomenon was certainly trying to set the stage for a fascist coup, and preparing public attitudes for it.  A lot of this smells like Russian meddling, although I have no direct evidence of that either. Its the sort of meme that is released ahead of time to help destabilize a government.  It doesn&#039;t necessarily spark a rebellion, it just makes it easier.

As our own Zone wingnuts used to smugly and self-righteously pronounce; &quot;Just sayin&#039;...&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;disguised as a pre-emptive strike against a left-wing coup.</p>
<p>Perhaps the Trump gang had nothing to do with this, but it is pretty clear how it worked right into their other plans. &#8220;The Storm&#8221; sounds like perfect cover for a fascist takeover of the US Government.  Its the narrative designed to make martial law, muzzling of the press, and the cancellation of elections (or of ignoring their results) possible.  If that tool was ever needed, it would already be oiled and sharpened, hanging on the pegboard ready for use.</p>
<p>Again, I have no evidence that the Trump administration had anything to do with QAnon, or even that they planned to take advantage of its presence or propaganda, but it is certain that whoever is behind the Q phenomenon was certainly trying to set the stage for a fascist coup, and preparing public attitudes for it.  A lot of this smells like Russian meddling, although I have no direct evidence of that either. Its the sort of meme that is released ahead of time to help destabilize a government.  It doesn&#8217;t necessarily spark a rebellion, it just makes it easier.</p>
<p>As our own Zone wingnuts used to smugly and self-righteously pronounce; &#8220;Just sayin&#8217;&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2018 05:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.salon.com/2018/11/15/qanons-true-believers-are-devastated-as-the-conspiracy-theory-goes-down-in-flames&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The &quot;QAnon&quot; community is falling apart.&lt;/a&gt;

Perhaps no conspiracy theory has thrived more readily in the dark corners of the internet since it was first born last October on the infamous troll message board 4chan, following President Donald Trump&#039;s vague remarks last year at a military dinner that it was the &quot;calm before the storm.&quot; An anonymous user claiming to be a high-level government informant and calling himself &quot;Q,&quot; after the highest level of security clearance at the Energy Department, began leaving cryptic messages he called &quot;crumbs.&quot; These were supposed to be hints about a wide-scale government operation known as &quot;The Storm&quot; to take down government corruption and the New World Order, with Trump at the center. While the messages often had specific dates, many aspects of them were purposefully vague, allowing believers in &quot;QAnon&quot; to use their imagination and fill in gaps.

In time, a gigantic overarching narrative emerged in which Trump, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and special counsel Robert Mueller were all working together, planning mass arrests of everyone from Hillary Clinton to liberal financier George Soros to members of Congress for their alleged roles in a massive, world-spanning criminal child sex ring enterprise that has included every former U.S. president — and that people should prepare for martial law and orchestrated mass riots aimed at protecting those marked for arrest. Q&#039;s believers have claimed that North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un is a CIA plant, that former Democratic staffer Seth Rich was assassinated by MS-13 on the orders of party leadership, and that Republicans intentionally lost the special election for Sessions&#039; former Senate seat in Alabama to build evidence of voter fraud. At its height, QAnon broke into popular culture, with disgraced TV star Roseanne Barr promoting it on Twitter.

But now, the ongoing failure of Q&#039;s predictions to come true has started to fragment the community, and two major events in particular smashed the credibility of the movement for many believers.

The first event was the result of the midterm elections, where Democrats decisively won control of the House. Q had previously assured supporters that, contrary to the polls, there was a &quot;red wave&quot; coming.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...FrankC espoused this theory, said he would return when the red wave materialized... oh well...
For giggles check out the screencaps of Qanon discussion groups here:
&lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1060053698863398912&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1060053698863398912&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/rothschildmd/status/1062769386262474752/photo/1&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://twitter.com/rothschildmd/status/1062769386262474752/photo/1&lt;/a&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;The second event was Trump&#039;s decision to fire Sessions, who in the QAnon narrative Trump was only pretending to hate, and was the mastermind behind all the impending mass arrests that were supposed to be right around the corner. This was a particular blow, as many supporters were already trying to rationalize losing the House with the fact that, any minute now, Trump was going to declassify huge swathes of intelligence that would result in House Democrats going to jail and a series of special elections that would give it back to Republicans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="https://www.salon.com/2018/11/15/qanons-true-believers-are-devastated-as-the-conspiracy-theory-goes-down-in-flames" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The &#8220;QAnon&#8221; community is falling apart.</a></p>
<p>Perhaps no conspiracy theory has thrived more readily in the dark corners of the internet since it was first born last October on the infamous troll message board 4chan, following President Donald Trump&#8217;s vague remarks last year at a military dinner that it was the &#8220;calm before the storm.&#8221; An anonymous user claiming to be a high-level government informant and calling himself &#8220;Q,&#8221; after the highest level of security clearance at the Energy Department, began leaving cryptic messages he called &#8220;crumbs.&#8221; These were supposed to be hints about a wide-scale government operation known as &#8220;The Storm&#8221; to take down government corruption and the New World Order, with Trump at the center. While the messages often had specific dates, many aspects of them were purposefully vague, allowing believers in &#8220;QAnon&#8221; to use their imagination and fill in gaps.</p>
<p>In time, a gigantic overarching narrative emerged in which Trump, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and special counsel Robert Mueller were all working together, planning mass arrests of everyone from Hillary Clinton to liberal financier George Soros to members of Congress for their alleged roles in a massive, world-spanning criminal child sex ring enterprise that has included every former U.S. president — and that people should prepare for martial law and orchestrated mass riots aimed at protecting those marked for arrest. Q&#8217;s believers have claimed that North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un is a CIA plant, that former Democratic staffer Seth Rich was assassinated by MS-13 on the orders of party leadership, and that Republicans intentionally lost the special election for Sessions&#8217; former Senate seat in Alabama to build evidence of voter fraud. At its height, QAnon broke into popular culture, with disgraced TV star Roseanne Barr promoting it on Twitter.</p>
<p>But now, the ongoing failure of Q&#8217;s predictions to come true has started to fragment the community, and two major events in particular smashed the credibility of the movement for many believers.</p>
<p>The first event was the result of the midterm elections, where Democrats decisively won control of the House. Q had previously assured supporters that, contrary to the polls, there was a &#8220;red wave&#8221; coming.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;FrankC espoused this theory, said he would return when the red wave materialized&#8230; oh well&#8230;<br />
For giggles check out the screencaps of Qanon discussion groups here:<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1060053698863398912" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1060053698863398912</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/rothschildmd/status/1062769386262474752/photo/1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/rothschildmd/status/1062769386262474752/photo/1</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The second event was Trump&#8217;s decision to fire Sessions, who in the QAnon narrative Trump was only pretending to hate, and was the mastermind behind all the impending mass arrests that were supposed to be right around the corner. This was a particular blow, as many supporters were already trying to rationalize losing the House with the fact that, any minute now, Trump was going to declassify huge swathes of intelligence that would result in House Democrats going to jail and a series of special elections that would give it back to Republicans.</p></blockquote>
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