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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/07/24/fascisms-first-task-is-to-erase-history/#comment-41830</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2018 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...the fact Putin preferred Trump to Clinton, or that he would even mention it publicly, is really no big deal.  Both men have talked earlier of parallel ideas that makes that statement perfectly reasonable, and I would have made no big deal of it.  But the fact that the Trump administration is making such extraordinary efforts to bury what is, to me, a perfectly innocent comment, sets all sorts of alarms off in my suspicious mind.

Its like Trump&#039;s claims that his inauguration audience was a real record-breaker; the fact he was mistaken about it is also &quot;conceivably, an innocent mistake&quot;. The fact he raised such a stink about it, and continued to do so when presented with contradictory evidence tells a lot about how he thinks, and how he wants us to think.

The man is such a congenital, pathological liar that he does it when it is easily checked, and when he has no reason to do so, nothing to gain by doing it, and everything to lose by getting called on it.

Not to mention it gives his followers a lot of extra work cleaning up after him....and his enemies plenty of documented ammunition to use against him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the fact Putin preferred Trump to Clinton, or that he would even mention it publicly, is really no big deal.  Both men have talked earlier of parallel ideas that makes that statement perfectly reasonable, and I would have made no big deal of it.  But the fact that the Trump administration is making such extraordinary efforts to bury what is, to me, a perfectly innocent comment, sets all sorts of alarms off in my suspicious mind.</p>
<p>Its like Trump&#8217;s claims that his inauguration audience was a real record-breaker; the fact he was mistaken about it is also &#8220;conceivably, an innocent mistake&#8221;. The fact he raised such a stink about it, and continued to do so when presented with contradictory evidence tells a lot about how he thinks, and how he wants us to think.</p>
<p>The man is such a congenital, pathological liar that he does it when it is easily checked, and when he has no reason to do so, nothing to gain by doing it, and everything to lose by getting called on it.</p>
<p>Not to mention it gives his followers a lot of extra work cleaning up after him&#8230;.and his enemies plenty of documented ammunition to use against him.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/07/24/fascisms-first-task-is-to-erase-history/#comment-41829</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2018 21:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics/trump-putin-transcript/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It is conceivable that this originally was an innocent mistake, but the White House has refused to rectify that mistake...&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;The White House&#039;s official transcript of the news conference omits the first part of a reporter&#039;s question to Putin: &quot;President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election?&quot; Instead, the official transcript only includes the second part of the question: &quot;And did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?&quot;
The omission appears to be due to an issue with an overlap between simultaneous translation of Putin&#039;s remarks and the first part of the reporter&#039;s question to Putin in the audio feed the stenographers rely on. Private transcription services also made the same error.
White House transcripts, which are considered the official record of the President&#039;s comments, are compiled by White House stenographers who are career officials, not political appointees.

But while the White House has previously corrected errors in the transcripts that historians and reporters rely on, it has yet to do so this time even though officials are aware of the omission.
&quot;This was by no means malicious,&quot; a White House official said of the omission, explaining that the audio mixer at the site did not bring up the audio levels of the reporter&#039;s microphone up in time to catch the beginning of the question because the translator was still speaking.
The audio mixing issue also led to the first part of the question being omitted in the White House&#039;s video feed of the event.
The omission muddles the meaning of Putin&#039;s response to the question, in which he confirmed for the first time that he wanted Trump to win the 2016 presidential election.
&quot;Yes, I did. Yes, I did,&quot; Putin said. &quot;Because he talked about bringing the US-Russia relationship back to normal.&quot;
The White House has not responded to requests for comment about why the transcript has not been corrected.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics/trump-putin-transcript/index.html" rel="nofollow">It is conceivable that this originally was an innocent mistake, but the White House has refused to rectify that mistake&#8230;</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The White House&#8217;s official transcript of the news conference omits the first part of a reporter&#8217;s question to Putin: &#8220;President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election?&#8221; Instead, the official transcript only includes the second part of the question: &#8220;And did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?&#8221;<br />
The omission appears to be due to an issue with an overlap between simultaneous translation of Putin&#8217;s remarks and the first part of the reporter&#8217;s question to Putin in the audio feed the stenographers rely on. Private transcription services also made the same error.<br />
White House transcripts, which are considered the official record of the President&#8217;s comments, are compiled by White House stenographers who are career officials, not political appointees.</p>
<p>But while the White House has previously corrected errors in the transcripts that historians and reporters rely on, it has yet to do so this time even though officials are aware of the omission.<br />
&#8220;This was by no means malicious,&#8221; a White House official said of the omission, explaining that the audio mixer at the site did not bring up the audio levels of the reporter&#8217;s microphone up in time to catch the beginning of the question because the translator was still speaking.<br />
The audio mixing issue also led to the first part of the question being omitted in the White House&#8217;s video feed of the event.<br />
The omission muddles the meaning of Putin&#8217;s response to the question, in which he confirmed for the first time that he wanted Trump to win the 2016 presidential election.<br />
&#8220;Yes, I did. Yes, I did,&#8221; Putin said. &#8220;Because he talked about bringing the US-Russia relationship back to normal.&#8221;<br />
The White House has not responded to requests for comment about why the transcript has not been corrected.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/07/24/fascisms-first-task-is-to-erase-history/#comment-41828</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2018 02:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trumps supporters know he is a liar- but if they say &#039;yeah, we knowingly support a liar and a traitor&#039; they know they look like the idiotic villains they are. 

They don&#039;t believe him, they know WE don&#039;t believe him, but they desperately want us to believe that they believe him...

Because that way they can keep pretending they are decent people...

Its all about appearances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trumps supporters know he is a liar- but if they say &#8216;yeah, we knowingly support a liar and a traitor&#8217; they know they look like the idiotic villains they are. </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t believe him, they know WE don&#8217;t believe him, but they desperately want us to believe that they believe him&#8230;</p>
<p>Because that way they can keep pretending they are decent people&#8230;</p>
<p>Its all about appearances.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/07/24/fascisms-first-task-is-to-erase-history/#comment-41827</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2018 02:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..that they can&#039;t afford to admit to themselves that it will poison them along with their enemies.  And now we have something else to worry about.  

Trump&#039;s own party may resolve to remove him, using unconstitutional or even violent means, because they realize his incompetence will lead us into disaster, and because their own agenda will be exposed and discredited, or even overthrown, by his ineptness.  If this happens, you know they&#039;re going to have to blame his removal on someone else--like us.  And the Deplorables will demand revenge.  Bloody revenge.

All it will take is someone in Trump&#039;s inner circle to believe he&#039;s gone too far, or perhaps someone who is convinced he hasn&#039;t gone far enough, to mount a palace uprising. And it will be choreographed so &lt;em&gt;the Deplorables will demand revenge.  Bloody revenge.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..that they can&#8217;t afford to admit to themselves that it will poison them along with their enemies.  And now we have something else to worry about.  </p>
<p>Trump&#8217;s own party may resolve to remove him, using unconstitutional or even violent means, because they realize his incompetence will lead us into disaster, and because their own agenda will be exposed and discredited, or even overthrown, by his ineptness.  If this happens, you know they&#8217;re going to have to blame his removal on someone else&#8211;like us.  And the Deplorables will demand revenge.  Bloody revenge.</p>
<p>All it will take is someone in Trump&#8217;s inner circle to believe he&#8217;s gone too far, or perhaps someone who is convinced he hasn&#8217;t gone far enough, to mount a palace uprising. And it will be choreographed so <em>the Deplorables will demand revenge.  Bloody revenge.</em></p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/07/24/fascisms-first-task-is-to-erase-history/#comment-41826</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2018 02:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of statements, announcements, official communiques, and of course, tweets, completely contradicted a day or two later by a subsequent &quot;correction&quot; or explanation.  The press howls in disbelief, but the knuckle draggers accept it because it removes one of the Boss&#039;s contradictions.  The official record is amended, just like in Orwell--you know, Winston Smith&#039;s old job at the Ministry of Truth.  And when the fudge is pointed out by critics or the press, it called &quot;fake news&quot;. And the historians of the future will only see the amended versions.

In some cases, the &quot;correction&quot; is so obviously bogus and outrageous only the True Believers can accept it without major eyerolls; like the substitution of one word in the POTUS Helsinki announcement that completely reversed the meaning of the statement.  No one believed it, but Trump&#039;s apologists seized on it because it gave them an out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of statements, announcements, official communiques, and of course, tweets, completely contradicted a day or two later by a subsequent &#8220;correction&#8221; or explanation.  The press howls in disbelief, but the knuckle draggers accept it because it removes one of the Boss&#8217;s contradictions.  The official record is amended, just like in Orwell&#8211;you know, Winston Smith&#8217;s old job at the Ministry of Truth.  And when the fudge is pointed out by critics or the press, it called &#8220;fake news&#8221;. And the historians of the future will only see the amended versions.</p>
<p>In some cases, the &#8220;correction&#8221; is so obviously bogus and outrageous only the True Believers can accept it without major eyerolls; like the substitution of one word in the POTUS Helsinki announcement that completely reversed the meaning of the statement.  No one believed it, but Trump&#8217;s apologists seized on it because it gave them an out.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/07/24/fascisms-first-task-is-to-erase-history/#comment-41825</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2018 02:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there is nothing to stop Trump- who even his supporters must admit is extremely unbalanced- from using nuclear weapons as a distraction, if it wipes out 90% of the human race it won&#039;t bother him a bit... as long as he can spin it to himself as a &#039;win&#039;.

This gets FAR uglier before it&#039;s over and we can start with the work of picking up the pieces- if there are any pieces left...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there is nothing to stop Trump- who even his supporters must admit is extremely unbalanced- from using nuclear weapons as a distraction, if it wipes out 90% of the human race it won&#8217;t bother him a bit&#8230; as long as he can spin it to himself as a &#8216;win&#8217;.</p>
<p>This gets FAR uglier before it&#8217;s over and we can start with the work of picking up the pieces- if there are any pieces left&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/07/24/fascisms-first-task-is-to-erase-history/#comment-41824</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/foreign-leaders-call-white-house/index.html



&lt;blockquote&gt;The White House has suspended the practice of publishing public summaries of President Donald Trump&#039;s phone calls with world leaders, two sources with knowledge of the situation tell CNN, bringing an end to a common exercise from Republican and Democratic administrations.

It&#039;s unclear if the suspension is temporary or permanent. A White House spokesman declined to comment.
Official descriptions of the President&#039;s calls with foreign leaders -- termed &quot;readouts&quot; in Washington parlance -- offer administrations the chance to characterize in their own terms the diplomacy conducted at the highest levels between countries. While news is rarely contained in the rote, often dry descriptions, they do offer the only official account that a phone call took place. Readouts are still released internally&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/foreign-leaders-call-white-house/index.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/foreign-leaders-call-white-house/index.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The White House has suspended the practice of publishing public summaries of President Donald Trump&#8217;s phone calls with world leaders, two sources with knowledge of the situation tell CNN, bringing an end to a common exercise from Republican and Democratic administrations.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unclear if the suspension is temporary or permanent. A White House spokesman declined to comment.<br />
Official descriptions of the President&#8217;s calls with foreign leaders &#8212; termed &#8220;readouts&#8221; in Washington parlance &#8212; offer administrations the chance to characterize in their own terms the diplomacy conducted at the highest levels between countries. While news is rarely contained in the rote, often dry descriptions, they do offer the only official account that a phone call took place. Readouts are still released internally</p></blockquote>
<p>.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/07/24/fascisms-first-task-is-to-erase-history/#comment-41823</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;WHY do this when there are countless unedited versions to check against?&quot;

We have countless versions we can examine, to compare and contrast and study.  But decades from now, when history is jelling into the &quot;final&quot; version, it will be the edited, approved transcripts which will survive, not the earlier drafts.

Future historians will lose the context, they will only have the &quot;approved&quot; version.  And they won&#039;t have any reason to question it like we do. Future scholars may not be as familiar with the controversy and uncertainty that exists today, so they won&#039;t be as motivated to reconstruct the moment like we can. The canonical text will be established.  

Historians like to think we need context and perspective to properly evaluate historical data, that historical truth eventually emerges from past data as we contrast and compare it with the events leading up to it, and the research and analysis subsequent to it.

I don&#039;t believe that.  The longer we wait, the weaker the signal gets. Bits get dropped from the data stream. Some accidentally, some deliberately. I&#039;m old enough now to realize some events I actually participated in aren&#039;t logged in the official record the way I remember them going down... 

You&#039;re absolutely right, its what fascists do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;WHY do this when there are countless unedited versions to check against?&#8221;</p>
<p>We have countless versions we can examine, to compare and contrast and study.  But decades from now, when history is jelling into the &#8220;final&#8221; version, it will be the edited, approved transcripts which will survive, not the earlier drafts.</p>
<p>Future historians will lose the context, they will only have the &#8220;approved&#8221; version.  And they won&#8217;t have any reason to question it like we do. Future scholars may not be as familiar with the controversy and uncertainty that exists today, so they won&#8217;t be as motivated to reconstruct the moment like we can. The canonical text will be established.  </p>
<p>Historians like to think we need context and perspective to properly evaluate historical data, that historical truth eventually emerges from past data as we contrast and compare it with the events leading up to it, and the research and analysis subsequent to it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that.  The longer we wait, the weaker the signal gets. Bits get dropped from the data stream. Some accidentally, some deliberately. I&#8217;m old enough now to realize some events I actually participated in aren&#8217;t logged in the official record the way I remember them going down&#8230; </p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, its what fascists do.</p>
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