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	<title>Comments on: SCIAM: Bogus science at EPA?</title>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/06/18/sciam-bogus-science-at-epa/#comment-41606</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But my editorial comments were a Flame, and belonged there, so I moved it.

I keep on getting hit over the head, over and over, with evidence that these people don&#039;t just sincerely disagree with me, they KNOW perfectly well they are propagating lies and they are doing so solely for their ideological position, which is is determined solely by their class interest.

They are not just mistaken, and they are not just subconsciously influenced by their self-interest, (I could deal with that) they are deliberately and maliciously lying.  There is a big difference.

These people are right up there with the MDs that worked for the tobacco companies.  They know exactly what they&#039;re doing and who they&#039;re working for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But my editorial comments were a Flame, and belonged there, so I moved it.</p>
<p>I keep on getting hit over the head, over and over, with evidence that these people don&#8217;t just sincerely disagree with me, they KNOW perfectly well they are propagating lies and they are doing so solely for their ideological position, which is is determined solely by their class interest.</p>
<p>They are not just mistaken, and they are not just subconsciously influenced by their self-interest, (I could deal with that) they are deliberately and maliciously lying.  There is a big difference.</p>
<p>These people are right up there with the MDs that worked for the tobacco companies.  They know exactly what they&#8217;re doing and who they&#8217;re working for.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should have posted this on the science board in my opinion... since it concerns science and those trying to kill it...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-zinke-scientists-20180614-story.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-zinke-scientists-20180614-story.html&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;Scientists at the U.S. Geological Survey must now submit their presentation titles for review by the Interior Department to get approval to attend two major conferences, and they will have to identify how their research relates to Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke&#039;s priorities.

In guidelines posted on the agency&#039;s internal website this week and obtained by The Washington Post, the USGS&#039;s Office of Administration told employees they will have to provide a detailed &quot;attendee justification&quot; when applying for travel approval for the annual meetings of the American Geophysical Union in Washington and the Geological Society of America in Indianapolis later this year.

Interior spokeswoman Faith Vander Voort said Thursday that budget limitations mean the department &quot;can only afford to send people who have a meaningful role at the conference. ... If taxpayer dollars are being spent to send someone to a conference, we&#039;d like some degree of confidence that their attendance will advance the department&#039;s priorities,&quot; she said.

Zinke has detailed 10 priorities since joining the Trump administration in March 2017, including &quot;create a conservation stewardship legacy second only to Teddy Roosevelt,&quot; &quot;sustainably develop our energy and natural resources,&quot; &quot;protect our people and the border,&quot; and &quot;strike a regulatory balance.&quot;

But Chip Groat, who served as USGS director under presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, called the new protocol unusual and &quot;inappropriate.&quot;

&quot;Someone from another part of Interior might not understand the fine points of why this science is important,&quot; he said Wednesday. &quot; They&#039;re making some judgment about the type and quality of science the USGS is presenting.&quot;

Bruce Babbitt, interior secretary during the Clinton administration, used stronger language: &quot;It&#039;s a form of censorship.&quot;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-14/trump-s-pick-to-lead-weather-agency-spent-30-years-fighting-it&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;And Trump put someone in charge of the National Weather Service that lobbied against them because they give out their weather data for free...&lt;/a&gt;

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-14/trump-s-pick-to-lead-weather-agency-spent-30-years-fighting-it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have posted this on the science board in my opinion&#8230; since it concerns science and those trying to kill it&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-zinke-scientists-20180614-story.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-zinke-scientists-20180614-story.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Scientists at the U.S. Geological Survey must now submit their presentation titles for review by the Interior Department to get approval to attend two major conferences, and they will have to identify how their research relates to Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke&#8217;s priorities.</p>
<p>In guidelines posted on the agency&#8217;s internal website this week and obtained by The Washington Post, the USGS&#8217;s Office of Administration told employees they will have to provide a detailed &#8220;attendee justification&#8221; when applying for travel approval for the annual meetings of the American Geophysical Union in Washington and the Geological Society of America in Indianapolis later this year.</p>
<p>Interior spokeswoman Faith Vander Voort said Thursday that budget limitations mean the department &#8220;can only afford to send people who have a meaningful role at the conference. &#8230; If taxpayer dollars are being spent to send someone to a conference, we&#8217;d like some degree of confidence that their attendance will advance the department&#8217;s priorities,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>Zinke has detailed 10 priorities since joining the Trump administration in March 2017, including &#8220;create a conservation stewardship legacy second only to Teddy Roosevelt,&#8221; &#8220;sustainably develop our energy and natural resources,&#8221; &#8220;protect our people and the border,&#8221; and &#8220;strike a regulatory balance.&#8221;</p>
<p>But Chip Groat, who served as USGS director under presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, called the new protocol unusual and &#8220;inappropriate.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Someone from another part of Interior might not understand the fine points of why this science is important,&#8221; he said Wednesday. &#8221; They&#8217;re making some judgment about the type and quality of science the USGS is presenting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bruce Babbitt, interior secretary during the Clinton administration, used stronger language: &#8220;It&#8217;s a form of censorship.&#8221;</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-14/trump-s-pick-to-lead-weather-agency-spent-30-years-fighting-it" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">And Trump put someone in charge of the National Weather Service that lobbied against them because they give out their weather data for free&#8230;</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-14/trump-s-pick-to-lead-weather-agency-spent-30-years-fighting-it" rel="nofollow">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-14/trump-s-pick-to-lead-weather-agency-spent-30-years-fighting-it</a></p>
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