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		<title>By: hank</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/03/26/more-republicans-attacking-the-students/#comment-41343</link>
		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2018 01:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after decades of pious, holier-than-thou patriotism and sanctimonious flag waving its the Right that&#039;s being successfully targeted and manipulated by Russian propagandists and spymasters who are doing everything possible to keep the Conservatives in power.

And the supreme irony is that the wingnuts are the only ones who haven&#039;t figured it out yet. The whole world knows they&#039;re being conned and they refuse to see it. (Or they simply refuse to admit it.)

There hasn&#039;t been a counter-intelligence flim-flam like this pulled off since Lenin put together &lt;em&gt;Operation Trust.&lt;/em&gt;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust

Its always the fanatics and true believers who are most easily fooled.

&lt;img src=&quot;https://therealcost.betobaccofree.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/image_plus/mprimary/Dip_Hooks_1.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;.&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after decades of pious, holier-than-thou patriotism and sanctimonious flag waving its the Right that&#8217;s being successfully targeted and manipulated by Russian propagandists and spymasters who are doing everything possible to keep the Conservatives in power.</p>
<p>And the supreme irony is that the wingnuts are the only ones who haven&#8217;t figured it out yet. The whole world knows they&#8217;re being conned and they refuse to see it. (Or they simply refuse to admit it.)</p>
<p>There hasn&#8217;t been a counter-intelligence flim-flam like this pulled off since Lenin put together <em>Operation Trust.</em></p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust</a></p>
<p>Its always the fanatics and true believers who are most easily fooled.</p>
<p><img src="https://therealcost.betobaccofree.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/image_plus/mprimary/Dip_Hooks_1.jpg" alt="." /></p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/03/26/more-republicans-attacking-the-students/#comment-41342</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2018 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russian bots of course.  They started attacking the students in the aftermath of the shooting and continue to incite the idiot right with memes and tweets.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/policy/technology/381326-russian-bots-rally-behind-laura-ingraham-amid-feud-with-parkland-student&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Russkies.&lt;/a&gt;

And the idiot right just follow along.  The rigthwing bubble is actually making the students the bad guys because the poor shooter was bullied.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russian bots of course.  They started attacking the students in the aftermath of the shooting and continue to incite the idiot right with memes and tweets.</p>
<p><a href="http://thehill.com/policy/technology/381326-russian-bots-rally-behind-laura-ingraham-amid-feud-with-parkland-student" rel="nofollow">Russkies.</a></p>
<p>And the idiot right just follow along.  The rigthwing bubble is actually making the students the bad guys because the poor shooter was bullied.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/03/26/more-republicans-attacking-the-students/#comment-41341</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/03/26/more-republicans-attacking-the-students/#comment-41340</link>
		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 06:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...but I don&#039;t think Rob falls in that category. He is making an effort to engage us in dialogue, we owe him the benefit of a doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but I don&#8217;t think Rob falls in that category. He is making an effort to engage us in dialogue, we owe him the benefit of a doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/03/26/more-republicans-attacking-the-students/#comment-41339</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 05:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The madness is all theirs, and not something the left is prone to...

The guy they voted for claimed Obama was a Kenyan muslim...Hillary ran a pedophile ring out of a pizza parlor, the parkland kids are &#039;crisis actors&#039;, and on and on and on...

They are a danger to themselves and others, and we need to start acting like it. They are killing americans, and spouting nazi rhetoric, and for too long we have wrung our hands and said &quot;well, maybe if we politely agree to disagree it will all get better&quot;

They have been whipping themselves up into a war frenzy for decades, and the left has been debating how to best reach out to them... 

Well, that hasn&#039;t worked out so well has it? 

Take some time to listen to right wing talk radio... they are in a war, and fascism is their endgame.

Dialogue is not possible with them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The madness is all theirs, and not something the left is prone to&#8230;</p>
<p>The guy they voted for claimed Obama was a Kenyan muslim&#8230;Hillary ran a pedophile ring out of a pizza parlor, the parkland kids are &#8216;crisis actors&#8217;, and on and on and on&#8230;</p>
<p>They are a danger to themselves and others, and we need to start acting like it. They are killing americans, and spouting nazi rhetoric, and for too long we have wrung our hands and said &#8220;well, maybe if we politely agree to disagree it will all get better&#8221;</p>
<p>They have been whipping themselves up into a war frenzy for decades, and the left has been debating how to best reach out to them&#8230; </p>
<p>Well, that hasn&#8217;t worked out so well has it? </p>
<p>Take some time to listen to right wing talk radio&#8230; they are in a war, and fascism is their endgame.</p>
<p>Dialogue is not possible with them.</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/03/26/more-republicans-attacking-the-students/#comment-41338</link>
		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 04:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we going to swing too far the other way and simply substitute our partisan madness for theirs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we going to swing too far the other way and simply substitute our partisan madness for theirs?</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 03:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After all we said would happen, did indeed happen...

He doesn&#039;t deserve any more slack.
People have died for his stupidity, and its very likely MANY more will suffer and die before this is over... so Rob getting his feelings hurt by me pointing out that he chose this atrocity doesn&#039;t really rate high on my list of concerns.
He chose the side of fascism, and anyone that does that should live with the consequences for the rest of their lives.

The right was always quick to accuse those that simply disagreed with them with treason, of hating america... well now they have actively defended the subverting of our democracy- I see no reason to offer them any more slack than is required for them to hang themselves.

History will condemn them, I am just getting a head start.

We executed Nazis for a reason- to make it clear that evil will be met with no mercy- to make examples of them as a warning to future generations... 
The damage cretins like Rob have done to our nation, AND OUR WORLD, is beyond comprehension- If I simply remind him of it, it isn&#039;t harsh- it is far less than he deserves. 

Maybe, if these bastards become objects of derision and contempt, the next generation- if there is one- will be more thoughtful about the dangers of supporting fascism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all we said would happen, did indeed happen&#8230;</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t deserve any more slack.<br />
People have died for his stupidity, and its very likely MANY more will suffer and die before this is over&#8230; so Rob getting his feelings hurt by me pointing out that he chose this atrocity doesn&#8217;t really rate high on my list of concerns.<br />
He chose the side of fascism, and anyone that does that should live with the consequences for the rest of their lives.</p>
<p>The right was always quick to accuse those that simply disagreed with them with treason, of hating america&#8230; well now they have actively defended the subverting of our democracy- I see no reason to offer them any more slack than is required for them to hang themselves.</p>
<p>History will condemn them, I am just getting a head start.</p>
<p>We executed Nazis for a reason- to make it clear that evil will be met with no mercy- to make examples of them as a warning to future generations&#8230;<br />
The damage cretins like Rob have done to our nation, AND OUR WORLD, is beyond comprehension- If I simply remind him of it, it isn&#8217;t harsh- it is far less than he deserves. </p>
<p>Maybe, if these bastards become objects of derision and contempt, the next generation- if there is one- will be more thoughtful about the dangers of supporting fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 02:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rob is starting to come around. Let&#039;s try to meet him half-way.  In this case, as in other other gun geek attacks on the Parkland kids and in their inability to see even the most moderate and reasonable gun control measures, even solid 2nd amendment people are starting to see how completely unreasonable and vicious the NRA goons are. 

I think there are a lot of Trumpers out there who are not going to be persuaded by our attacks on their philosophy, but will be sternly educated by the total betrayal of Conservative principles carried out by the White House and its allies.

I think RobVg is doing just fine.  I don&#039;t expect him to become an Obama/Hillary man overnight, but I believe I can see he is no longer being taken in by the more extreme loonies in his party.  We can afford to hear him out.

An honest Conservative willing to call out his own side when they go too far is worth to the national conversation more than another mustachioed bomb-throwing mirror image fanatic on the Left. There&#039;s a lot of gun owners and fanciers out there who have the NRA&#039;s number, and want no part of their poison.  Like me. Lets welcome them.

Besides, I&#039;m already thinking about what happens if our side wins.  Are we going to swing too far the other way and simply substitute our partisan madness for theirs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rob is starting to come around. Let&#8217;s try to meet him half-way.  In this case, as in other other gun geek attacks on the Parkland kids and in their inability to see even the most moderate and reasonable gun control measures, even solid 2nd amendment people are starting to see how completely unreasonable and vicious the NRA goons are. </p>
<p>I think there are a lot of Trumpers out there who are not going to be persuaded by our attacks on their philosophy, but will be sternly educated by the total betrayal of Conservative principles carried out by the White House and its allies.</p>
<p>I think RobVg is doing just fine.  I don&#8217;t expect him to become an Obama/Hillary man overnight, but I believe I can see he is no longer being taken in by the more extreme loonies in his party.  We can afford to hear him out.</p>
<p>An honest Conservative willing to call out his own side when they go too far is worth to the national conversation more than another mustachioed bomb-throwing mirror image fanatic on the Left. There&#8217;s a lot of gun owners and fanciers out there who have the NRA&#8217;s number, and want no part of their poison.  Like me. Lets welcome them.</p>
<p>Besides, I&#8217;m already thinking about what happens if our side wins.  Are we going to swing too far the other way and simply substitute our partisan madness for theirs?</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 00:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the one you voted for?</description>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2018/03/26/more-republicans-attacking-the-students/#comment-41334</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 00:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need some changes. Nugent&#039;s bs will drive moderate rights away from 2nd amendment myopics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need some changes. Nugent&#8217;s bs will drive moderate rights away from 2nd amendment myopics.</p>
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