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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2016/04/22/as-i-predicted-many-years-ago/#comment-36309</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breeders create plutonium.

And plutonium is suitable for weapons, and much easier to mass produce than fissionable uranium. The world&#039;s nations have agreed to curtail plutonium production to help prevent nuclear weapons proliferation and terrorist use of the substance (besides its use as bomb material). It is one of the most toxic substances known to man.

Breeders are also potentially more unstable than pressurized water reactors, and much more expensive and dangerous to operate. Extracting the plutonium from spent fuel elements is an expensive and dangerous industrial process no one seems in a hurry to invest in. Like much of the promise of the Nuclear Age, breeder reactors did not turn out as wonderful as we had hoped.

We are learning that just because we CAN do something doesn&#039;t mean that we SHOULD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breeders create plutonium.</p>
<p>And plutonium is suitable for weapons, and much easier to mass produce than fissionable uranium. The world&#8217;s nations have agreed to curtail plutonium production to help prevent nuclear weapons proliferation and terrorist use of the substance (besides its use as bomb material). It is one of the most toxic substances known to man.</p>
<p>Breeders are also potentially more unstable than pressurized water reactors, and much more expensive and dangerous to operate. Extracting the plutonium from spent fuel elements is an expensive and dangerous industrial process no one seems in a hurry to invest in. Like much of the promise of the Nuclear Age, breeder reactors did not turn out as wonderful as we had hoped.</p>
<p>We are learning that just because we CAN do something doesn&#8217;t mean that we SHOULD.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2016/04/22/as-i-predicted-many-years-ago/#comment-36306</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2016 19:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now moved to Flame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now moved to Flame</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2016 18:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been explained to you how mind-bogglingly stupid and wrong your assertions are countless times. If you were actually interested in understanding and learning on this topic, you would have listened and tried to educate yourself. Instead you just repost the same nonsense over and over, and ignore all the science that people have repeatedly explained to you.

For at least 14 years you have wasted your time and ours with this... 14 years you could have spent getting an education in math and physics so you actually understand the words you use.

You do not have a theory, you have a delusion- and after all these years you still expect us to kindly indulge your insanity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been explained to you how mind-bogglingly stupid and wrong your assertions are countless times. If you were actually interested in understanding and learning on this topic, you would have listened and tried to educate yourself. Instead you just repost the same nonsense over and over, and ignore all the science that people have repeatedly explained to you.</p>
<p>For at least 14 years you have wasted your time and ours with this&#8230; 14 years you could have spent getting an education in math and physics so you actually understand the words you use.</p>
<p>You do not have a theory, you have a delusion- and after all these years you still expect us to kindly indulge your insanity?</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2016/04/22/as-i-predicted-many-years-ago/#comment-36301</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MOVED TO OFF TOPIC</description>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2016/04/22/as-i-predicted-many-years-ago/#comment-36299</link>
		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RL:  Your comments belong on the flame board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RL:  Your comments belong on the flame board.</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
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		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is obvious that you choose to ignore the possibility that the long lasting energy released by nuclear fission and all the daughter elements created in the process could have any effect on the Earth’s environment.
 
I agree that the sun is the strongest and most enduring heat source for the planet, but without the radioactive material that is in the earth, the earth would be much colder.

It does not surprise me that you guys hold fast to your belief of the (possibly erroneous) numbers that have been published about the long lasting power of nuclear fission.

What does surprise me is that the predictions that I made less than two decades ago are already happening, I expected a much longer time for any visible effects to be noticeable.

Nuclear age.
Maria Sklodowska-Curie  Lived: Nov 7, 1867 - Jul 4, 1934 (age 66)
I am of the opinion that it is her and Albert Einstein’s work that started the whole process of nuclear power development. Although, It is not impossible that some others had worked on nuclear energy before that time.
 
Since you probably know more about nuclear power than I do, could you explain why the breeder reactors are not used for power generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obvious that you choose to ignore the possibility that the long lasting energy released by nuclear fission and all the daughter elements created in the process could have any effect on the Earth’s environment.</p>
<p>I agree that the sun is the strongest and most enduring heat source for the planet, but without the radioactive material that is in the earth, the earth would be much colder.</p>
<p>It does not surprise me that you guys hold fast to your belief of the (possibly erroneous) numbers that have been published about the long lasting power of nuclear fission.</p>
<p>What does surprise me is that the predictions that I made less than two decades ago are already happening, I expected a much longer time for any visible effects to be noticeable.</p>
<p>Nuclear age.<br />
Maria Sklodowska-Curie  Lived: Nov 7, 1867 &#8211; Jul 4, 1934 (age 66)<br />
I am of the opinion that it is her and Albert Einstein’s work that started the whole process of nuclear power development. Although, It is not impossible that some others had worked on nuclear energy before that time.</p>
<p>Since you probably know more about nuclear power than I do, could you explain why the breeder reactors are not used for power generation.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) It is not a &#039;theory&#039;, it is delusional nonsense that has been explained to him over and over for over a decade.
2)It cant be reconciled with the facts, or with sanity.

3) He has no desire to learn, only to preach his delusion...

This thread does not belong here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) It is not a &#8216;theory&#8217;, it is delusional nonsense that has been explained to him over and over for over a decade.<br />
2)It cant be reconciled with the facts, or with sanity.</p>
<p>3) He has no desire to learn, only to preach his delusion&#8230;</p>
<p>This thread does not belong here.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you realize that in the decade and a half that you have been spouting this garbage you could have gotten an education in math and physics so you could understand that it is all nonsense?

But no... that is too much work... so here we are again wasting time explaining things to you, when you don&#039;t have the required knowledge to even comprehend what we are saying, nor do you have any inclination to be educated on the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you realize that in the decade and a half that you have been spouting this garbage you could have gotten an education in math and physics so you could understand that it is all nonsense?</p>
<p>But no&#8230; that is too much work&#8230; so here we are again wasting time explaining things to you, when you don&#8217;t have the required knowledge to even comprehend what we are saying, nor do you have any inclination to be educated on the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2016/04/22/as-i-predicted-many-years-ago/#comment-36280</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
&lt;blockquote&gt;Our climate is absorbing a lot of heat. When scientists add up all of the heat warming the oceans, land, and atmosphere and melting the ice, they find our climate is accumulating 4 Hiroshima atomic bombs worth of heat every second.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Since 1998, our climate has absorbed about 2.4 &lt;em&gt;billion&lt;/em&gt; Hiroshima bombs worth of heat.  Check out the app at the 4hiroshimas.com website.  Clearly, this heat is not coming from a few hundred nuclear steam plants, or even from all the fossil fuel we&#039;re burning.  The vast bulk of it comes from the sun.

The human race and all its technology simply cannot produce this kind of heat.  But it can alter the atmosphere so that the sun&#039;s heat is prevented from being radiated into space. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Our climate is absorbing a lot of heat. When scientists add up all of the heat warming the oceans, land, and atmosphere and melting the ice, they find our climate is accumulating 4 Hiroshima atomic bombs worth of heat every second.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since 1998, our climate has absorbed about 2.4 <em>billion</em> Hiroshima bombs worth of heat.  Check out the app at the 4hiroshimas.com website.  Clearly, this heat is not coming from a few hundred nuclear steam plants, or even from all the fossil fuel we&#8217;re burning.  The vast bulk of it comes from the sun.</p>
<p>The human race and all its technology simply cannot produce this kind of heat.  But it can alter the atmosphere so that the sun&#8217;s heat is prevented from being radiated into space.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2016/04/22/as-i-predicted-many-years-ago/#comment-36279</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Space is a vacuum, and convection and conduction doesn&#039;t work.  As an object heats up, it glows with light from the heat.  The temperature determines the frequency.  The earth is not a red-hot poker or a lake of lava, at its low temperature it glows feebly in the thermal infrared.  This is how the excess heat is removed. Look up Planck&#039;s Law.

The hotter something gets, the more it glows, so sooner or later the heat escaping through radiation exactly equals the heat created by incoming sunlight, the heat from earth&#039;s core, and the sum total of human activity.  The earth&#039;s atmosphere, and greenhouse gases in the atmosphere in particular, make the radiation harder to escape, so the earth gets hotter, emits even more, and eventually reaches equilibrium with the blackness of space at some higher temperature.

The point is, where does this incoming heat come from that must be disposed of?  The vast majority comes from the sun.  The heat produced by all our industrial activities, including power generation from fossil fuels AND nukes, is trivial in comparison.  And the heat produced by residual radiation from our nukes is insignificant to THAT.

The sun provides approximately a Kilowatt per square meter at the top of the atmosphere, all human thermal activities on the planet are insignificant when compared to that. A very big thousand megawatt thermoelectric steam plant (whether nuclear or coal fired) produces as much total energy as 10^6 m^2, or one square km of solar collecting surface.  And of course, even in a nuclear fission plant, the residual heat from the leftover radiation is insignificant compared to what went out the generators.  Radiation is nasty stuff, and it can cause lots of problems, but it doesn&#039;t contribute to global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Space is a vacuum, and convection and conduction doesn&#8217;t work.  As an object heats up, it glows with light from the heat.  The temperature determines the frequency.  The earth is not a red-hot poker or a lake of lava, at its low temperature it glows feebly in the thermal infrared.  This is how the excess heat is removed. Look up Planck&#8217;s Law.</p>
<p>The hotter something gets, the more it glows, so sooner or later the heat escaping through radiation exactly equals the heat created by incoming sunlight, the heat from earth&#8217;s core, and the sum total of human activity.  The earth&#8217;s atmosphere, and greenhouse gases in the atmosphere in particular, make the radiation harder to escape, so the earth gets hotter, emits even more, and eventually reaches equilibrium with the blackness of space at some higher temperature.</p>
<p>The point is, where does this incoming heat come from that must be disposed of?  The vast majority comes from the sun.  The heat produced by all our industrial activities, including power generation from fossil fuels AND nukes, is trivial in comparison.  And the heat produced by residual radiation from our nukes is insignificant to THAT.</p>
<p>The sun provides approximately a Kilowatt per square meter at the top of the atmosphere, all human thermal activities on the planet are insignificant when compared to that. A very big thousand megawatt thermoelectric steam plant (whether nuclear or coal fired) produces as much total energy as 10^6 m^2, or one square km of solar collecting surface.  And of course, even in a nuclear fission plant, the residual heat from the leftover radiation is insignificant compared to what went out the generators.  Radiation is nasty stuff, and it can cause lots of problems, but it doesn&#8217;t contribute to global warming.</p>
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