<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m re-reading the Dune series&#8230;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.habitablezone.com/2014/07/07/im-re-reading-the-dune-series/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2014/07/07/im-re-reading-the-dune-series/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 20:11:45 -0700</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2014/07/07/im-re-reading-the-dune-series/#comment-31270</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=46179#comment-31270</guid>
		<description>...and unlike most pundits, he actually took a rifle and fought against it in Spain in the 30s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and unlike most pundits, he actually took a rifle and fought against it in Spain in the 30s.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2014/07/07/im-re-reading-the-dune-series/#comment-31265</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2014 06:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=46179#comment-31265</guid>
		<description>It&#039;s not the book I remembered, but one is in awe of how accurately he predicted some things.

For instance, the advantage of perpetual war to the ruling class.  That has been achieved in the US.  And the reasons for spending money on killing others, on destruction rather than meeting the needs of people.  Again, to the advantage of the rulers.

Pretty good of Orwell, who died young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the book I remembered, but one is in awe of how accurately he predicted some things.</p>
<p>For instance, the advantage of perpetual war to the ruling class.  That has been achieved in the US.  And the reasons for spending money on killing others, on destruction rather than meeting the needs of people.  Again, to the advantage of the rulers.</p>
<p>Pretty good of Orwell, who died young.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2014/07/07/im-re-reading-the-dune-series/#comment-31257</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=46179#comment-31257</guid>
		<description>The task of speculative fiction is to speculate, to extrapolate, to say &quot;what if&quot;?

But the future has a way of turning out very differently from what we expect. In the case of Dune, Herbert&#039;s prediction wasn&#039;t just a satirical warning of what might happen if current trends were projected into the near future, but a detailed explanation of what was about to happen, and why it had to, thinly disguised as occurring in the far future. 

The essay I linked to discusses this at length.  The world of Dune, and of the contemporary ferment in the Islamic world, seems inevitable from today&#039;s point of view, given the historical causes for it.  But before it happened, and while it was unfolding, no one else saw it coming.

That&#039;s what I find astonishing about Herbert&#039;s prescience. We all had access to the same clues, obvious ones in retrospect, and we missed it. Our ability to predict the future doesn&#039;t fail so much because of our inability to anticipate what will happen, but our inability to understand our own past, and our failure to see what is going on right before our eyes.

What this suggests is that even if a society can develop the historians, artists, philosophers and scientists that can make valid speculations about the future from our knowledge of the past, there is still a momentum to history that may override that prescience.  Individual humans can foresee the future, and they can even make it happen, but they can&#039;t seem to be able to do both. Free will means we can make our own future, predestination means it makes no difference because we don&#039;t know what we&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The task of speculative fiction is to speculate, to extrapolate, to say &#8220;what if&#8221;?</p>
<p>But the future has a way of turning out very differently from what we expect. In the case of Dune, Herbert&#8217;s prediction wasn&#8217;t just a satirical warning of what might happen if current trends were projected into the near future, but a detailed explanation of what was about to happen, and why it had to, thinly disguised as occurring in the far future. </p>
<p>The essay I linked to discusses this at length.  The world of Dune, and of the contemporary ferment in the Islamic world, seems inevitable from today&#8217;s point of view, given the historical causes for it.  But before it happened, and while it was unfolding, no one else saw it coming.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I find astonishing about Herbert&#8217;s prescience. We all had access to the same clues, obvious ones in retrospect, and we missed it. Our ability to predict the future doesn&#8217;t fail so much because of our inability to anticipate what will happen, but our inability to understand our own past, and our failure to see what is going on right before our eyes.</p>
<p>What this suggests is that even if a society can develop the historians, artists, philosophers and scientists that can make valid speculations about the future from our knowledge of the past, there is still a momentum to history that may override that prescience.  Individual humans can foresee the future, and they can even make it happen, but they can&#8217;t seem to be able to do both. Free will means we can make our own future, predestination means it makes no difference because we don&#8217;t know what we&#8217;re doing.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mcfly</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2014/07/07/im-re-reading-the-dune-series/#comment-31256</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.habitablezone.com/?p=46179#comment-31256</guid>
		<description>I can&#039;t help but wonder if the eerily prescient in literature began, more often than not, with an author asking &quot;what&#039;re the worst things I can imagine?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but wonder if the eerily prescient in literature began, more often than not, with an author asking &#8220;what&#8217;re the worst things I can imagine?&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
