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Universal healthcare and slavery July 19, 2013 3:16 pm bowser

It has occurred to me that the US was the last industrialized nation to ban slavery, and it took a devastating, bloody war to do that.  (Even though banning slavery was only a side issue.)

It also occurs to me that the US is the last industrialized nation to not have universal health care.

The proponents of slavery and opponents of universal health care use the same reasoning.  The US cannot afford it.

The US has never been able to afford anything, according to these folks.  Can’t afford environmental regulations, can’t afford Social Security, can’t afford worker’s compensation.

There’s never been a war we couldn’t afford, destruction we weren’t willing to fund.  We would even as a nation deal drugs, put drugs on the street, to fund wars.

But if these cretins had their way we would still have slavery, would not have worker’s compensation laws, would not have Union negotiated benefits, would be more polluted than China and health care would be for the very few.

Think about the results of the Conservative agenda.

  • Slavery and health care... by ER 2013-07-21 19:11:56
    • Realistically, everyone who is not self-employed is a slave. (jumping in late, here) by ER 2013-07-21 18:53:30
      • I started a thread Bowser...about the Teamsters and Obamacare on Flame... by Jody 2013-07-19 19:34:21
        • My post is about the similarity of the people who promoted slavery and oppose universal health care. by bowser 2013-07-20 00:29:47
          • Well awrighty then sugar smacks...I'll be back by Jody 2013-07-20 15:00:08
            • Jody, it never hurts to touch base with reality from time to time by Robert 2013-07-21 15:11:14
              • Touch base with reality? by Jody 2013-07-21 18:02:16
                • Probably not by Robert 2013-07-22 11:44:36
                  • I have issues with QED by Jody 2013-07-22 15:26:31
                    • Do I feel the government is evil? by Jody 2013-07-23 08:03:05
                      • QED is an acronym for a phrase in Latin meaning something like "Thus it is proven". by ER 2013-07-22 20:51:39
                        • *giggle* Now that I can wrap my head around. :) by Jody 2013-07-23 08:12:39
                        • Q.E.D. by TB 2013-07-22 16:11:59
                          • Latin: "That which has been demonstrated". by bowser 2013-07-22 23:21:30
                            • Thank you TB...that is the best explanation yet! by Jody 2013-07-22 20:11:34
                              • My personal understanding of QED by FrankC 2013-07-22 21:27:50
                                • Thank you Frank! by Jody 2013-07-23 08:11:52
                                • Best explanation of "infer" and "imply" I've found... by TB 2013-07-22 20:27:15
                                  • Thanks Tom! You are right...it is an easy to remember explanation. n/t by Jody 2013-07-23 08:11:18
                        • P.S. I noticed a remarkable gap in that Wikipedia article. Did you? by TB 2013-07-21 17:53:18
                          • Not "government" Robert. A certain vision of it. by TB 2013-07-21 17:24:58
                            • The problem is that it's your vision by Robert 2013-07-22 11:55:16
                              • Just for fun... by TB 2013-07-22 14:07:37
                            • Tom's post is not trite, it is extremely clever... by FrankC 2013-07-21 16:03:48
                              • Dogwhistle rhetoric by Robert 2013-07-21 17:17:22
                                • Discussion by TB 2013-07-21 17:42:00
                                  • Which one of us were you addressing with that little post? by Robert 2013-07-22 11:46:22
                                    • Real discussion involves occasionally changing the subject. by ER 2013-07-21 19:32:20
                                      • Actually read the damn thread. I didn't start this. by TB 2013-07-21 20:51:06
                                        • Apparently, you don't want to talk about what I want to talk about. by ER 2013-07-21 21:09:19
                                  • Not only trite, but off the point, irrelevant, misleading. by bowser 2013-07-21 16:17:17
                                • Jody, it never hurts to remember what slavery actually IS. by TB 2013-07-21 12:22:03
                                  • You do. McDonalds or the military. Some choice, eh? by bowser 2013-07-21 15:16:11
                                    • Well, that wasn't trite at all. by TB 2013-07-21 18:00:29
                                      • No, but it was right on target. by ER 2013-07-21 18:54:47

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