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	<title>Comments on: Anyone have any experience with an OS for PCs besides Linux or MS?</title>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/12/12/anyone-have-any-experience-with-an-os-for-pcs-besides-linux-or-ms/#comment-9562</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are two ways of formatting a hard drive.&lt;/p&gt;  The first is what I call a &quot;soft&quot; format, which basically instructs the drive that all data on it is no longer &quot;good&quot; and can be overwritten.  The other is a hard format, usually only possible from a bios level, and &quot;disappears&quot; all the data.  I&#039;m not tech enough to know exactly how.  At this point the drive is so naked it&#039;s lost not only its data, but its partition.  You have to create a new partition to use it.

Most of the time, I use separate physical drives for separate logical drives (My &quot;C,&quot; &quot;D,&quot; and &quot;E&quot; drives are three different 500 GB hard drives).  So I instruct the partition program to create the largest possible partition in a 500 GB drive (it ends up being 465 on my machine for some reason).  &quot;C&quot; is always applications.  &quot;D&quot; is always data.  I&#039;m using &quot;E&quot; for leftover heavy storage.

On my laptop, there&#039;s only one drive, so I partitioned it into a &quot;C&quot; and &quot;D&quot; drive.  There are programs (I use Partition Magic) that actually let you screw with partitions after the fact.  I&#039;ve shoved the border around on my laptop with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two ways of formatting a hard drive.</p>
<p>  The first is what I call a &#8220;soft&#8221; format, which basically instructs the drive that all data on it is no longer &#8220;good&#8221; and can be overwritten.  The other is a hard format, usually only possible from a bios level, and &#8220;disappears&#8221; all the data.  I&#8217;m not tech enough to know exactly how.  At this point the drive is so naked it&#8217;s lost not only its data, but its partition.  You have to create a new partition to use it.</p>
<p>Most of the time, I use separate physical drives for separate logical drives (My &#8220;C,&#8221; &#8220;D,&#8221; and &#8220;E&#8221; drives are three different 500 GB hard drives).  So I instruct the partition program to create the largest possible partition in a 500 GB drive (it ends up being 465 on my machine for some reason).  &#8220;C&#8221; is always applications.  &#8220;D&#8221; is always data.  I&#8217;m using &#8220;E&#8221; for leftover heavy storage.</p>
<p>On my laptop, there&#8217;s only one drive, so I partitioned it into a &#8220;C&#8221; and &#8220;D&#8221; drive.  There are programs (I use Partition Magic) that actually let you screw with partitions after the fact.  I&#8217;ve shoved the border around on my laptop with it.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, I&#039;ll need instructions on what angle to hold the grinder.

Seriously, I have never partitioned a drive. Seems to be a simple enough operation but I have never been sufficiently motivated.

I assume you put your docs and exe files in the partition. 

That sounds like a very good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, I&#8217;ll need instructions on what angle to hold the grinder.</p>
<p>Seriously, I have never partitioned a drive. Seems to be a simple enough operation but I have never been sufficiently motivated.</p>
<p>I assume you put your docs and exe files in the partition. </p>
<p>That sounds like a very good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usually, I grind the hard drive down to bare metal and start from a new formatted partition before doing a completely clean install.  I have had pretty good luck with upgrades though in recent years, both on the PC and Macs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usually, I grind the hard drive down to bare metal and start from a new formatted partition before doing a completely clean install.  I have had pretty good luck with upgrades though in recent years, both on the PC and Macs.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do a clean upgrade ther is no problem in restoring documents from whatever source.

There is no way that I am aware of to recover programs from back-up. 

Well,I have never been able to do it. 

There are software programs designed to do it and I have tried them with dismal results. You need to do a fresh install of each program from the original disk or from a saved download.

All that is not so hard if you still have access to your program installation stuff.

The hard part is getting the old O/S cleaned off. 

I have done that so it has to be doable by almost anybody. I just followed written step by step procedure and it worked the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do a clean upgrade ther is no problem in restoring documents from whatever source.</p>
<p>There is no way that I am aware of to recover programs from back-up. </p>
<p>Well,I have never been able to do it. </p>
<p>There are software programs designed to do it and I have tried them with dismal results. You need to do a fresh install of each program from the original disk or from a saved download.</p>
<p>All that is not so hard if you still have access to your program installation stuff.</p>
<p>The hard part is getting the old O/S cleaned off. </p>
<p>I have done that so it has to be doable by almost anybody. I just followed written step by step procedure and it worked the first time.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re running Windows, you get used to the idea of having to re-install everything from the ground up every few years.  It takes a lot of time, and keeping track of what you have on board, but the &quot;clean&quot; system always runs better and longer.

I have my applications/system and data on two separate drives.  I&#039;ve also worked things out so my mail is stored on my data drive and is backed up with the rest of it.  There&#039;s also a file where I store a copy of my browser bookmarks.  I don&#039;t have a lot of customized application preferences to worry about.  It&#039;s all the little drivers and odds and ends that are the pain in the ass on a rebuild.

When I got a new computer a few years ago, I upgraded it to Windows 7 immediately since I knew eventually most applications would be looking for it, and better then than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re running Windows, you get used to the idea of having to re-install everything from the ground up every few years.  It takes a lot of time, and keeping track of what you have on board, but the &#8220;clean&#8221; system always runs better and longer.</p>
<p>I have my applications/system and data on two separate drives.  I&#8217;ve also worked things out so my mail is stored on my data drive and is backed up with the rest of it.  There&#8217;s also a file where I store a copy of my browser bookmarks.  I don&#8217;t have a lot of customized application preferences to worry about.  It&#8217;s all the little drivers and odds and ends that are the pain in the ass on a rebuild.</p>
<p>When I got a new computer a few years ago, I upgraded it to Windows 7 immediately since I knew eventually most applications would be looking for it, and better then than later.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The machine will handle it, BUT it&#039;s considered a &quot;clean upgrade&quot;.  That means a complete uninstall of the former operating system and then installing Windows 7 AND all other programs.

I suspect one could backup all of that onto something, probably an external hard drive, but that adds another layer of cost and complexity into the process.

Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The machine will handle it, BUT it&#8217;s considered a &#8220;clean upgrade&#8221;.  That means a complete uninstall of the former operating system and then installing Windows 7 AND all other programs.</p>
<p>I suspect one could backup all of that onto something, probably an external hard drive, but that adds another layer of cost and complexity into the process.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, Linux, OS X, and Windows are the OS&#039;s you MUST choose to retain compatibility with the virtual world. ALL require partitioning, however, there is a solution.

Ubuntu is a GUI desktop environment for linux. It is available free for download. You can put it on a USB flash drive, boot to it, and voila! You have a full featured OS capable of the same feats as Microsoft, Macintosh, and other Linux distributions.

Here is a link providing instructions

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick

I would google image Ubuntu desktop as well so you can see the wide array of options. And best of all, ITS FREE!!!

I firmly believe Ubuntu is the best OS on the planet, alongside Windows 7 64 bit of course :)

Ubuntu is light, powerful, and does not require a formal install like its cousins.
Installation/FromUSBStick - Community Ubuntu Documentation
help.ubuntu.com
The recommended way to install Ubuntu from a USB flash drive is to use the usb-creator program, point it at a ISO image of a Ubuntu installation CD that you have downloaded, and let it create a bootable USB that you can use instead of the CD.


...Computer geek that lives in the abode with Jody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Linux, OS X, and Windows are the OS&#8217;s you MUST choose to retain compatibility with the virtual world. ALL require partitioning, however, there is a solution.</p>
<p>Ubuntu is a GUI desktop environment for linux. It is available free for download. You can put it on a USB flash drive, boot to it, and voila! You have a full featured OS capable of the same feats as Microsoft, Macintosh, and other Linux distributions.</p>
<p>Here is a link providing instructions</p>
<p><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick" rel="nofollow">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick</a></p>
<p>I would google image Ubuntu desktop as well so you can see the wide array of options. And best of all, ITS FREE!!!</p>
<p>I firmly believe Ubuntu is the best OS on the planet, alongside Windows 7 64 bit of course <img src='https://www.habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ubuntu is light, powerful, and does not require a formal install like its cousins.<br />
Installation/FromUSBStick &#8211; Community Ubuntu Documentation<br />
help.ubuntu.com<br />
The recommended way to install Ubuntu from a USB flash drive is to use the usb-creator program, point it at a ISO image of a Ubuntu installation CD that you have downloaded, and let it create a bootable USB that you can use instead of the CD.</p>
<p>&#8230;Computer geek that lives in the abode with Jody.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of a story I heard on the radio one time.  Obscure little station.  Fellow drives into a gas station back in the old days when they fixed cars.

Driver, with an affected lisp:  &quot;The rear end is squealing.&quot;

Kid, apprentice mechanic, after looking under the vehicle:  &quot;It looks as if you&#039;ve blown a seal.&quot;

Driver:  &quot;I&#039;m not talking about my sex life, I&#039;m talking about my car.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a story I heard on the radio one time.  Obscure little station.  Fellow drives into a gas station back in the old days when they fixed cars.</p>
<p>Driver, with an affected lisp:  &#8220;The rear end is squealing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kid, apprentice mechanic, after looking under the vehicle:  &#8220;It looks as if you&#8217;ve blown a seal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Driver:  &#8220;I&#8217;m not talking about my sex life, I&#8217;m talking about my car.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;See what his opinion is on Vista.&lt;/p&gt;  It will probably be some variation on &quot;blows goats.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See what his opinion is on Vista.</p>
<p>  It will probably be some variation on &#8220;blows goats.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bowser...don&#039;t do anything yet...I will ask the computer geek who lives in this abode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bowser&#8230;don&#8217;t do anything yet&#8230;I will ask the computer geek who lives in this abode.</p>
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