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	<title>Comments on: One thing is obvious &#8211; the US military is unable to win modern wars.</title>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/11/27/one-thing-is-obvious-the-us-military-is-unable-to-win-modern-wars/#comment-8883</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 01:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Military men are inherently conservative.  They are always preparing to fight the last war, not the next.  And to be fair, the enemy will always try to engage you where and how and when you are least prepared, that is, after all, his job.

I like to tell the story of when my ship first pulled into Pearl Harbor.  We were manning the rail in our dress whites as we passed by the Arizona Memorial and rendered honors.  My shipmate, next to me in line, observing the rank upon rank of ships at the docks, nested six deep, muttered under his breath as we saluted on command, &quot;They never learn, do they?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Military men are inherently conservative.  They are always preparing to fight the last war, not the next.  And to be fair, the enemy will always try to engage you where and how and when you are least prepared, that is, after all, his job.</p>
<p>I like to tell the story of when my ship first pulled into Pearl Harbor.  We were manning the rail in our dress whites as we passed by the Arizona Memorial and rendered honors.  My shipmate, next to me in line, observing the rank upon rank of ships at the docks, nested six deep, muttered under his breath as we saluted on command, &#8220;They never learn, do they?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 01:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The use of &quot;transfer&quot; was a euphemism. What I really meant was &quot;ripoff&quot;.

Besides, just becaused you dismissed it earlier does not mean anyone else is under any obligation to do so now. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The use of &#8220;transfer&#8221; was a euphemism. What I really meant was &#8220;ripoff&#8221;.</p>
<p>Besides, just becaused you dismissed it earlier does not mean anyone else is under any obligation to do so now.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 01:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t we focusing on asymmetric warfare? I understand we are, maybe not.

Aren&#039;t we working on a Main Battle Tank, that will take us into the mid twenty first? Obsolescence?

It is a conundrum, the day we don&#039;t have a strong conventional force asymmetric will go out of style and the hordes will come knocking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t we focusing on asymmetric warfare? I understand we are, maybe not.</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t we working on a Main Battle Tank, that will take us into the mid twenty first? Obsolescence?</p>
<p>It is a conundrum, the day we don&#8217;t have a strong conventional force asymmetric will go out of style and the hordes will come knocking.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You use of the word &quot;transfer&quot; is loaded.  I already discussed that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You use of the word &#8220;transfer&#8221; is loaded.  I already discussed that.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/11/27/one-thing-is-obvious-the-us-military-is-unable-to-win-modern-wars/#comment-8869</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you aware that Social SECURITY was born largely as the result of the collapse of exactly they systems you would bring in under the guise of &quot;competition and choice&quot;?  And it is designed to protect the citizenry from the depredations of those who manipulate the &quot;choices&quot;?

Makes more sense now to leave it alone, doesn&#039;t it?  In the interests of security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you aware that Social SECURITY was born largely as the result of the collapse of exactly they systems you would bring in under the guise of &#8220;competition and choice&#8221;?  And it is designed to protect the citizenry from the depredations of those who manipulate the &#8220;choices&#8221;?</p>
<p>Makes more sense now to leave it alone, doesn&#8217;t it?  In the interests of security.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What  would you do to bring competition and choice into Medicare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What  would you do to bring competition and choice into Medicare?</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/11/27/one-thing-is-obvious-the-us-military-is-unable-to-win-modern-wars/#comment-8867</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TB, look at it as a physicist would look at a set of data.  The primary characteristic of this recession is that the rich (the 1%, the financial elite, Wall Street, the capitalist roaders, whatever you choose to call them)is accumulating unprecedented wealth while everyone else is going broke and the economy is becoming increasingly dysfunctional.  Furthermore, this group that is prospering is getting smaller and smaller as a proportion of the population.

To put it another way, there is a drastic transfer of wealth from most sectors of the population towards the very top. The mechanism may be in dispute, but it cannot be denied.  Much of the data you present is very compelling, and I do not dispute it in principle. Yet the very hint of wealth redistribution (which is occurring now on a truly cosmic scale), sends you into paroxysms of denial.

Unless you can propose a hypothesis that satifactorily accounts for  
why this upward transfer of wealth is occurring, no other explanation of this phenomenon can be taken seriously; especially if it is perceived to be emerging from those who seem to be benefitting from it so handsomely.

You need your mid-ocean ridges, your extragalactic red shift, your microwave background, your Michelson-Morely experiment, or none of your hypotheses, no matter how reasonable, is going to be met by anything but eye-rolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TB, look at it as a physicist would look at a set of data.  The primary characteristic of this recession is that the rich (the 1%, the financial elite, Wall Street, the capitalist roaders, whatever you choose to call them)is accumulating unprecedented wealth while everyone else is going broke and the economy is becoming increasingly dysfunctional.  Furthermore, this group that is prospering is getting smaller and smaller as a proportion of the population.</p>
<p>To put it another way, there is a drastic transfer of wealth from most sectors of the population towards the very top. The mechanism may be in dispute, but it cannot be denied.  Much of the data you present is very compelling, and I do not dispute it in principle. Yet the very hint of wealth redistribution (which is occurring now on a truly cosmic scale), sends you into paroxysms of denial.</p>
<p>Unless you can propose a hypothesis that satifactorily accounts for<br />
why this upward transfer of wealth is occurring, no other explanation of this phenomenon can be taken seriously; especially if it is perceived to be emerging from those who seem to be benefitting from it so handsomely.</p>
<p>You need your mid-ocean ridges, your extragalactic red shift, your microwave background, your Michelson-Morely experiment, or none of your hypotheses, no matter how reasonable, is going to be met by anything but eye-rolls.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Modify them.  Bring competition and choice into the system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284114/support-builds-premium-support-plan-medicare-yuval-levin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some Democrats are quietly admitting that Ryan&#039;s ideas didn&#039;t actually suck.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modify them.  Bring competition and choice into the system.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284114/support-builds-premium-support-plan-medicare-yuval-levin" rel="nofollow">Some Democrats are quietly admitting that Ryan&#8217;s ideas didn&#8217;t actually suck.</a></p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As they lead us into a better world, the human suffering will be seen to be negligible, simply a price for change, and people should be glad to pay that price.

Just like the Iraqis should appreciate &quot;Shock and Awe&quot;, Agu Ghraib, white phosphorus, limited electricity, no sewers on their way to liberty, freedom and democracy.

The &quot;fiscal&quot; and &quot;economic&quot;, why that&#039;s all good.  Another reason why &quot;humanitarian&quot; is considered a dirty word by all right-thinking people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As they lead us into a better world, the human suffering will be seen to be negligible, simply a price for change, and people should be glad to pay that price.</p>
<p>Just like the Iraqis should appreciate &#8220;Shock and Awe&#8221;, Agu Ghraib, white phosphorus, limited electricity, no sewers on their way to liberty, freedom and democracy.</p>
<p>The &#8220;fiscal&#8221; and &#8220;economic&#8221;, why that&#8217;s all good.  Another reason why &#8220;humanitarian&#8221; is considered a dirty word by all right-thinking people.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tom, you keep on trotting out the same figures which justify why those with little must give up more, and those with much must not yield anything at all.&quot;

Again, that&#039;s not what I said.  This isn&#039;t about those with little giving up anything.  It&#039;s about not being able to give them any more.  The money isn&#039;t there, and there simply aren&#039;t enough rich people left to cover the gigantic bills already coming due.  Remember the trillions in future entitlement liabilities we discussed a while back?

There is almost no money flowing from the poor to the rich through the government (Social Security payments to the wealthy are the only thing I can think of off-hand).  There are trillions flowing by that route the other way.  Look at what percentage of the budget is social spending.

What&#039;s in it for me?  I &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to live in a society that has a lot of surplus wealth.  A society that can afford things like space travel, high tech, advanced medicine, a high standard of living, and all the other things I like.  And you get your pension paid by that top half of the income bracket.

All the private space companies out there now were either founded by or funded by billionaires, most of them earning their money in the tech boom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tom, you keep on trotting out the same figures which justify why those with little must give up more, and those with much must not yield anything at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, that&#8217;s not what I said.  This isn&#8217;t about those with little giving up anything.  It&#8217;s about not being able to give them any more.  The money isn&#8217;t there, and there simply aren&#8217;t enough rich people left to cover the gigantic bills already coming due.  Remember the trillions in future entitlement liabilities we discussed a while back?</p>
<p>There is almost no money flowing from the poor to the rich through the government (Social Security payments to the wealthy are the only thing I can think of off-hand).  There are trillions flowing by that route the other way.  Look at what percentage of the budget is social spending.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s in it for me?  I <em>want</em> to live in a society that has a lot of surplus wealth.  A society that can afford things like space travel, high tech, advanced medicine, a high standard of living, and all the other things I like.  And you get your pension paid by that top half of the income bracket.</p>
<p>All the private space companies out there now were either founded by or funded by billionaires, most of them earning their money in the tech boom.</p>
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