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	<title>Comments on: Y&#8217;all need to be watching Fringe</title>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/11/11/yall-need-to-be-watching-fringe/#comment-8429</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, I really had nobody in mind. I was vaguely thinking of a political figure but the connection went away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, I really had nobody in mind. I was vaguely thinking of a political figure but the connection went away.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In that last line I was thinking of Ronald D. Moore, who had everybody fooled into thinking he could tell a story. Then we saw the ending of BSG and learned that he was nothing more than a scene-polisher from Star Trek who was lost without a real writer to come up with a plot.

Who were you thinking of? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that last line I was thinking of Ronald D. Moore, who had everybody fooled into thinking he could tell a story. Then we saw the ending of BSG and learned that he was nothing more than a scene-polisher from Star Trek who was lost without a real writer to come up with a plot.</p>
<p>Who were you thinking of? <img src='https://www.habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least it is nearly spoiler proof :)

The show has always been entertaining but the 1st season was mostly episodic and focused mainly on character development, pretty smart imo. It gets you hooked on the characters before the plot gets complicated.

It doesn&#039;t start getting complicated until season 2.

It&#039;s really not that hard to follow and any confusion on my part is due to my confounded habit of multitasking while I watch TV. I am pretty good at it but I occasionally miss something.

BTW, I won&#039;t touch that last line with a ten foot pole :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least it is nearly spoiler proof <img src='https://www.habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The show has always been entertaining but the 1st season was mostly episodic and focused mainly on character development, pretty smart imo. It gets you hooked on the characters before the plot gets complicated.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t start getting complicated until season 2.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really not that hard to follow and any confusion on my part is due to my confounded habit of multitasking while I watch TV. I am pretty good at it but I occasionally miss something.</p>
<p>BTW, I won&#8217;t touch that last line with a ten foot pole <img src='https://www.habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>christ, I don&#039;t think I understood one word in ten in what you guys wrote. And you&#039;ve been watching the show all along, so it&#039;s clear that if I watch all three seasons to catch up I&#039;m &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; not going to follow it. What is it with JJ?

Wouldn&#039;t it be funny if Abrams turned out to be the world&#039;s worst story-teller, but because nobody can understand him, everybody assumes he&#039;s too brilliant for mere mortals and nobody wants to admit they&#039;re baffled? Where have I heard that one before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>christ, I don&#8217;t think I understood one word in ten in what you guys wrote. And you&#8217;ve been watching the show all along, so it&#8217;s clear that if I watch all three seasons to catch up I&#8217;m <i>still</i> not going to follow it. What is it with JJ?</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be funny if Abrams turned out to be the world&#8217;s worst story-teller, but because nobody can understand him, everybody assumes he&#8217;s too brilliant for mere mortals and nobody wants to admit they&#8217;re baffled? Where have I heard that one before?</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit to being a bit confused. 

In the first season 4 episode there was a gate between the two universes and there was some interaction between the characters of each. That gate is apparently now closed and no one seems to remember it ever existed.

If they explained any of that I must have had a lapse of attention.

Currently, this is a third universe where Peter drowned and does not exist. A watcher was supposed to have obliterated his existence but refused to do it.

Since he was not obliterated Peter was trapped between universes and he has popped into this one where he is a stranger.

Will our hero find his way home or must he remake his life
in this universe. :)

In other words, it&#039;s about like you said. :)

BTW, you&#039;ll have to bring the acid, my dealer died of old age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit to being a bit confused. </p>
<p>In the first season 4 episode there was a gate between the two universes and there was some interaction between the characters of each. That gate is apparently now closed and no one seems to remember it ever existed.</p>
<p>If they explained any of that I must have had a lapse of attention.</p>
<p>Currently, this is a third universe where Peter drowned and does not exist. A watcher was supposed to have obliterated his existence but refused to do it.</p>
<p>Since he was not obliterated Peter was trapped between universes and he has popped into this one where he is a stranger.</p>
<p>Will our hero find his way home or must he remake his life<br />
in this universe. <img src='https://www.habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In other words, it&#8217;s about like you said. <img src='https://www.habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW, you&#8217;ll have to bring the acid, my dealer died of old age.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, in this one, there is no alternative timeline, or is there? 

The Watchers supposedly obliterated his existence. But Peter has managed to pop into an existence in a time where he hasn&#039;t existed since dying as a child.

For him to exist in this universe is only possible if the events of the other timeline actually had occurred. He must have a home to return to.


Frank, what do say we drop some acid and talk about it over Root Beer Floats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, in this one, there is no alternative timeline, or is there? </p>
<p>The Watchers supposedly obliterated his existence. But Peter has managed to pop into an existence in a time where he hasn&#8217;t existed since dying as a child.</p>
<p>For him to exist in this universe is only possible if the events of the other timeline actually had occurred. He must have a home to return to.</p>
<p>Frank, what do say we drop some acid and talk about it over Root Beer Floats?</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn Frank, I dropped in to say the same thing. n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn Frank, I dropped in to say the same thing. n/t</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;monopoly&quot; has a definite meaning, and copyright definitely grants a monopoly to use a given work (literally the right to make copies, which is not a bad definition of control of the expression of an idea).

Notice that I say &quot;use&quot; rather than own, because copyrights are granted for a fixed term. If you want an analogy, a lease is a better one.

It&#039;s a stretch to call copyrights &quot;intellectual property&quot; because of the fixed term. They&#039;re not property in a real sense.

So who grants the copyright, and who is the &quot;lessor&quot;? Who really owns a copyrighted work?

For bonus points, what is the basis in law for the present copyright regime in the United States?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &#8220;monopoly&#8221; has a definite meaning, and copyright definitely grants a monopoly to use a given work (literally the right to make copies, which is not a bad definition of control of the expression of an idea).</p>
<p>Notice that I say &#8220;use&#8221; rather than own, because copyrights are granted for a fixed term. If you want an analogy, a lease is a better one.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a stretch to call copyrights &#8220;intellectual property&#8221; because of the fixed term. They&#8217;re not property in a real sense.</p>
<p>So who grants the copyright, and who is the &#8220;lessor&#8221;? Who really owns a copyrighted work?</p>
<p>For bonus points, what is the basis in law for the present copyright regime in the United States?</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah?  Wait for it.&lt;/p&gt;  Internet is already being treated as a &quot;necessity of life&quot; in a lot of places.

Meanwhile, we can download almost any movie or TV show in existence for a few bucks, anywhere there&#039;s internet access, or buy it on DVDs.  Blu-rays have better resolution than movies seen in the theaters.

And we&#039;re bitching about it.

I&#039;m old enough to remember when if a movie wasn&#039;t in theaters, or playing on TV, you could lump it.  Missed it on TV last night?  Better luck next year.  Disney re-released its classics into theaters once every ten years or so.

If somebody owning the copyright to a work is a &quot;monopoly&quot; now, we&#039;re in trouble.  I&#039;m still hoping to make money as a writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah?  Wait for it.</p>
<p>  Internet is already being treated as a &#8220;necessity of life&#8221; in a lot of places.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, we can download almost any movie or TV show in existence for a few bucks, anywhere there&#8217;s internet access, or buy it on DVDs.  Blu-rays have better resolution than movies seen in the theaters.</p>
<p>And we&#8217;re bitching about it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m old enough to remember when if a movie wasn&#8217;t in theaters, or playing on TV, you could lump it.  Missed it on TV last night?  Better luck next year.  Disney re-released its classics into theaters once every ten years or so.</p>
<p>If somebody owning the copyright to a work is a &#8220;monopoly&#8221; now, we&#8217;re in trouble.  I&#8217;m still hoping to make money as a writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can well believe, and I agree with your assessment of the problem. Publishers hamstring Kindle, and the &quot;studios&quot; dictate what happens with audio and video digital media. 

It looks to me like Amazon&#039;s contracts all fix the single-unit prices rigidly, but they have flexibility with bulk pricing--seasons&#039; worth of TV shows are sometimes heavily discounted. It&#039;s clear that the &quot;studios&quot; are protecting their bluray market by prohibiting online streaming or downloading of true HD: 1080. The best you can get anywhere is 1280x720p in TV shows, and never better than DVD grade in cinematic movies.

It&#039;s the contractual single-unit pricing that is so stubbornly arbitrary. For TV shows, it&#039;s $1.99 in low-def(480), $2.99 in medium-def (720)...for 20 minutes of a failed sitcom, or a two-hour pilot of a successful series that would qualify as a movie based on runtime. Same price on Amazon and iTunes. 

They have a name for a situation like that...what&#039;s it called again? Mono...mononucleosis? Monogamy? No, that&#039;s not right.

It&#039;s a funny business. On the surface you can say that competition is fierce in the entertainment business. But because of copyright laws, the prize is a monopoly on a given work. If you own &quot;Gone With the Wind&quot;, you own the &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; GWTW, and everybody pays your price or they can&#039;t have it. So entertainment is really a finely-sliced monopoly business, and a successful business strategy isn&#039;t directly the creation of good productions, it&#039;s the accumulation of a high-quality portfolio of copyrights.

Don&#039;t worry, Tom, I don&#039;t think that all monopolies need regulatin, only those that control a genuine necessity of life. You&#039;ll know we&#039;ve become the land of bread and circuses if it can ever be sucessfully argued that entertainment is a necessity of life in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can well believe, and I agree with your assessment of the problem. Publishers hamstring Kindle, and the &#8220;studios&#8221; dictate what happens with audio and video digital media. </p>
<p>It looks to me like Amazon&#8217;s contracts all fix the single-unit prices rigidly, but they have flexibility with bulk pricing&#8211;seasons&#8217; worth of TV shows are sometimes heavily discounted. It&#8217;s clear that the &#8220;studios&#8221; are protecting their bluray market by prohibiting online streaming or downloading of true HD: 1080. The best you can get anywhere is 1280x720p in TV shows, and never better than DVD grade in cinematic movies.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the contractual single-unit pricing that is so stubbornly arbitrary. For TV shows, it&#8217;s $1.99 in low-def(480), $2.99 in medium-def (720)&#8230;for 20 minutes of a failed sitcom, or a two-hour pilot of a successful series that would qualify as a movie based on runtime. Same price on Amazon and iTunes. </p>
<p>They have a name for a situation like that&#8230;what&#8217;s it called again? Mono&#8230;mononucleosis? Monogamy? No, that&#8217;s not right.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a funny business. On the surface you can say that competition is fierce in the entertainment business. But because of copyright laws, the prize is a monopoly on a given work. If you own &#8220;Gone With the Wind&#8221;, you own the <i>only</i> GWTW, and everybody pays your price or they can&#8217;t have it. So entertainment is really a finely-sliced monopoly business, and a successful business strategy isn&#8217;t directly the creation of good productions, it&#8217;s the accumulation of a high-quality portfolio of copyrights.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Tom, I don&#8217;t think that all monopolies need regulatin, only those that control a genuine necessity of life. You&#8217;ll know we&#8217;ve become the land of bread and circuses if it can ever be sucessfully argued that entertainment is a necessity of life in America.</p>
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