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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1677</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s probably obvious that I can&#039;t claim to agree.

Frankly, I think that if your ideas don&#039;t collide in the real world, then you&#039;re not taking everything into account. Human behavior is very often about collisions that can&#039;t be reconciled into right and wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably obvious that I can&#8217;t claim to agree.</p>
<p>Frankly, I think that if your ideas don&#8217;t collide in the real world, then you&#8217;re not taking everything into account. Human behavior is very often about collisions that can&#8217;t be reconciled into right and wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1675</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever seen me reject actual facts or real detracting evidence?  Just because I don&#039;t like them?

&quot;Consistency&quot; means not holding one view when it serves your purpose then switching to its opposite when that serves your purpose.  It means your ideas have to mesh with each other, not collide with each other.  And yes, it is a goal, but truth is far more important.  It&#039;s easy as hell to create a self-consistent set of false ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever seen me reject actual facts or real detracting evidence?  Just because I don&#8217;t like them?</p>
<p>&#8220;Consistency&#8221; means not holding one view when it serves your purpose then switching to its opposite when that serves your purpose.  It means your ideas have to mesh with each other, not collide with each other.  And yes, it is a goal, but truth is far more important.  It&#8217;s easy as hell to create a self-consistent set of false ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve put your conclusions on a pedestal. They&#039;re not to be touched. Supporting evidence is enshrined, detracting evidence is dismissed as the result of improper thinking. Evil, as you say, seems to be the things TB doesn&#039;t like.

Consistency is a flaw when it becomes the goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve put your conclusions on a pedestal. They&#8217;re not to be touched. Supporting evidence is enshrined, detracting evidence is dismissed as the result of improper thinking. Evil, as you say, seems to be the things TB doesn&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>Consistency is a flaw when it becomes the goal.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1657</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 00:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For reasons of space, my reply is above, filed under &quot;Fundamental Ideas and Philosophy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For reasons of space, my reply is above, filed under &#8220;Fundamental Ideas and Philosophy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1656</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1654</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know.  Did you vote for the guy who picked Biden as his running mate?  I could fill a page with the stupid crap he&#039;s said.  Or maybe you voted for the guy who picked John Edwards as his running mate.

You can&#039;t &quot;define&quot; a completely subjective concept.  The idea of &quot;define&quot; demands an objective standard at some point.  If all the terms involved in a debate are subjective, rational discussion becomes impossible and pointless.  Like trying to establish whether vanilla tastes better than chocolate.  Of course, ripping politics and philosophy out of the realm of rational discussion is probably the goal in the first place.

There&#039;s a reason the Left viciously attacks anyone who talks about politics in terms of fundamental ideas and philosophy.  They know damn well what their own fundamental philosophy is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  Did you vote for the guy who picked Biden as his running mate?  I could fill a page with the stupid crap he&#8217;s said.  Or maybe you voted for the guy who picked John Edwards as his running mate.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t &#8220;define&#8221; a completely subjective concept.  The idea of &#8220;define&#8221; demands an objective standard at some point.  If all the terms involved in a debate are subjective, rational discussion becomes impossible and pointless.  Like trying to establish whether vanilla tastes better than chocolate.  Of course, ripping politics and philosophy out of the realm of rational discussion is probably the goal in the first place.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason the Left viciously attacks anyone who talks about politics in terms of fundamental ideas and philosophy.  They know damn well what their own fundamental philosophy is.</p>
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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1653</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? You&#039;re making this accusation?

&quot;Anyway, since your philosophical definition of “evil” seems to be “things ER doesn’t like,” I’m not sure what we can reference here.&quot;

YOU??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? You&#8217;re making this accusation?</p>
<p>&#8220;Anyway, since your philosophical definition of “evil” seems to be “things ER doesn’t like,” I’m not sure what we can reference here.&#8221;</p>
<p>YOU??</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1649</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, Tom.  I shoulda voted for a guy who&#039;s first presidential decision was picking Palin as his running mate?

And by the way, that&#039;s a perfectly legitimate definition of evil. In fact, it is the only valid one. Like all philosophical points, it is purely subjective. Look it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, Tom.  I shoulda voted for a guy who&#8217;s first presidential decision was picking Palin as his running mate?</p>
<p>And by the way, that&#8217;s a perfectly legitimate definition of evil. In fact, it is the only valid one. Like all philosophical points, it is purely subjective. Look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dammit ER!!!!! LOL!</description>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://www.habitablezone.com/2011/06/03/can-you-believe-her-ignorance/#comment-1632</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently you missed how the current president got elected.  Just shut off your brain, ignore the reality of the candidate, his ideas, his voting record, his associations, and his history, and just walk in and vote for the starry dream floating in front of you.  Hope.  Change.  Yes We Can.  We Are the Ones We&#039;ve Been Waiting For.  Fired Up.  We Are One People.  Did I mention Hope and Change?

Any airheads who swallowed this crap like a carp gulping down a dough ball should not be lecturing anyone else on rhetoric and buzz-words in politics.  Anybody who&#039;s still swallowing it after he&#039;s gone back on almost everything he said during his campaign deserves what they get.

Cripes, at least Palin&#039;s rhetoric connects to solid concepts here and there.

Anyway, since your philosophical definition of &quot;evil&quot; seems to be &quot;things ER doesn&#039;t like,&quot; I&#039;m not sure what we can reference here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently you missed how the current president got elected.  Just shut off your brain, ignore the reality of the candidate, his ideas, his voting record, his associations, and his history, and just walk in and vote for the starry dream floating in front of you.  Hope.  Change.  Yes We Can.  We Are the Ones We&#8217;ve Been Waiting For.  Fired Up.  We Are One People.  Did I mention Hope and Change?</p>
<p>Any airheads who swallowed this crap like a carp gulping down a dough ball should not be lecturing anyone else on rhetoric and buzz-words in politics.  Anybody who&#8217;s still swallowing it after he&#8217;s gone back on almost everything he said during his campaign deserves what they get.</p>
<p>Cripes, at least Palin&#8217;s rhetoric connects to solid concepts here and there.</p>
<p>Anyway, since your philosophical definition of &#8220;evil&#8221; seems to be &#8220;things ER doesn&#8217;t like,&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure what we can reference here.</p>
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