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From this board may flames be spawned and to this board may they as well be damned; those posts serving no other purpose that bitching, moaning and cursing at other people/things. For here is their home, not being welcomed by any other, and here they shall thrive. If you need anything e-mail: Justin or Robert

"Wall Street Got Drunk" - George Bush - 7/23/2008 4:52:57 AM
- Does "Wall Street" encompass those who made mortgage lending policy? - alcaray - 7/23/2008 12:57:39 PM
  - No, Bush says those guys were doing blow, not drinking. - Yeti - 7/24/2008 7:25:20 PM
- I like this guy. - ER - 7/23/2008 7:43:17 AM

Civilization in Britain update - TB - 7/13/2008 8:37:23 AM
- re: Civilization in Britain update - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/14/2008 9:03:59 PM
- Civilization in America update * - Doug Ellison - 7/13/2008 3:16:06 PM
  - Should be 32. - Lee - 7/14/2008 5:51:24 PM
  - Main Stream Yellow Rag Media - ER - 7/13/2008 8:58:13 PM
  - Talking about a screwed up justice system! - Bowser - 7/13/2008 5:54:32 PM
    - re: screwed up - TB - 7/13/2008 8:07:21 PM
  - Notice a difference? - TB - 7/13/2008 3:42:05 PM
    - The lady attacked a kid - Yeti - 7/13/2008 9:20:01 PM
    - Several months ago... - Mary Anne - 7/13/2008 7:06:09 PM
      - So - Lee - 7/13/2008 7:26:54 PM
        Did you read the article? - Mary Anne - 7/14/2008 4:43:31 AM
        Paraphrasing can lead to problems. - Lee - 7/14/2008 4:01:43 PM
        So can assumptions. - Mary Anne - 7/15/2008 2:09:15 PM
        Different worldview I guess. - Lee - 7/15/2008 4:23:32 PM
        Nobody said anything about "excusing"... - Mary Anne - 7/15/2008 5:36:30 PM
        From the story. - Lee - 7/15/2008 7:08:53 PM
        Only part of it. - Mary Anne - 7/15/2008 7:33:18 PM
        I have a feeling Lee would feel differently... - ER - 7/23/2008 7:48:55 AM
        Not if it's crime. - Lee - 7/23/2008 4:04:43 PM
        I rest my case. (n/t) - ER - 7/23/2008 6:35:10 PM
        Like I said, give an example. - Lee - 7/24/2008 4:48:00 AM
        Apples, meet Oranges.... (n/t) - Yeti - 7/13/2008 9:22:19 PM
        More like, Hatfields, meet McCoys. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 7/14/2008 4:44:13 AM
        You see, MA, Lee has real life experience in this.... - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 4:41:50 PM
        I'm sure you do too. - Lee - 7/14/2008 5:44:43 PM
        Pretty much what I expected.... - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 6:48:37 PM
        Unemployment's hell, isn't it. - Lee - 7/14/2008 8:05:08 PM
        8^) It actually takes very little time - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 8:39:12 PM
        I forgot...you've got a stalker mentality. - Lee - 7/15/2008 4:45:26 AM
        So indeed... - McFly - 7/13/2008 8:34:19 PM
    - "some crazy person running loose in Britain " - Doug Ellison - 7/13/2008 4:11:09 PM
      - re: "some crazy person running loose in Britain " - TB - 7/13/2008 4:45:27 PM
        A "Clockwork Orange " society is the end result of liberal policies. (n/t) - Lee - 7/13/2008 5:45:13 PM
        At least, you're honest enough to tell us up front what you think. (n/t) - ER - 7/13/2008 9:04:43 PM

The following threads have had no activity for the last 24 hours:

George Will on government bailouts of investors. - Bowser - 7/20/2008 1:42:38 PM

McCain surrogate: 'The Muslims' are ***going to kill us.' - Bowser - 7/20/2008 12:50:17 PM
- Conservative justification for war - z - 7/22/2008 1:37:18 PM

The good news is that the US could be the solution. - Bowser - 7/17/2008 10:29:37 AM
- Some good ideas; however... - Eri - 7/17/2008 7:48:34 PM
- Why put it on Flame? - Lee - 7/17/2008 4:16:30 PM
- nice post, didn't belong on Flame (n/t) - sdg - 7/17/2008 4:11:10 PM

Offshore drilling - ER - 7/14/2008 9:16:25 PM
- China and India will be very happy - nick hoffman - 7/17/2008 5:10:40 AM
  - Unfortunately, the smart thing to do is not always the most profitable. (n/t) - ER - 7/17/2008 6:07:14 AM
- Oil pumped and refined here can be sold... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/16/2008 10:22:23 PM
- The point of drilling in ANWR is to drill in ANWR. - Robert - 7/15/2008 3:56:51 PM
  - re: The point of drilling in ANWR is to drill in ANWR. - gbaikie - 7/15/2008 6:30:26 PM
- Propaganda - Yeti - 7/15/2008 12:34:48 PM
  - re: Propaganda - gbaikie - 7/15/2008 7:06:37 PM
  - In response to Robert and Yeti above - ER - 7/15/2008 5:09:03 PM
    - More nuanced, I think - Yeti - 7/16/2008 9:27:55 AM
      - For domestic consumption - ER - 7/16/2008 1:17:28 PM

Chance and Necessity (Jacques Monod) or about our complete insignificance - Raoul - 7/14/2008 7:03:54 AM
- Jacques and others... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/14/2008 9:28:53 PM
  - A human is no exception: once it's over, it's over. (n/t) - Raoul - 7/14/2008 10:41:15 PM
- Remember... - TB - 7/14/2008 10:36:02 AM
  - Our kind of intelligence, yes....Life, I don't know. - Raoul - 7/14/2008 1:43:07 PM
- I agree with the first statement, but not the second. - ER - 7/14/2008 8:39:50 AM
  - I agree with the first statement, half agree with the second. - Bowser - 7/14/2008 3:46:16 PM
  - About the statement concerning science and mystery - Raoul - 7/14/2008 10:41:26 AM
    - re: About the statement concerning science and mystery - ER - 7/14/2008 11:40:10 AM
      - Seeking meanings - Raoul - 7/14/2008 2:00:08 PM
        re: Seeking meanings - ER - 7/14/2008 4:35:12 PM
        re: Seeking meanings - Raoul - 7/15/2008 6:34:09 AM

A year ago in the New York Times - TB - 7/13/2008 8:22:38 AM

Stephenville, Texas lights WERE UFO's - Lindy - 7/11/2008 9:15:14 PM
- On a course to Bush's ranch? - McFly - 7/12/2008 6:05:59 AM
  - Yes.......... - Lindy - 7/12/2008 4:03:38 PM
  - well didn't I just spit out my coffee...LOL - Jody - 7/12/2008 7:48:00 AM
- re: Stephenville, Texas lights WERE MILITARY JETS - ARRELL - 7/11/2008 10:55:12 PM
  - The link - Raoul - 7/12/2008 2:59:26 AM
    - Thanks for that link Raoul - Lindy - 7/12/2008 8:07:10 AM

Lord Gore, save us! - TB - 7/11/2008 11:48:27 AM
- re: Oh, Please, no.... - Marcia - 7/13/2008 10:05:41 PM
- re: Lord Gore, save us! - Marcia - 7/13/2008 10:04:45 PM
- The Nobel Prize doesn't come with a title does it? - Bowser - 7/12/2008 7:42:03 AM
- Who is hyping ? - Raoul - 7/12/2008 3:05:50 AM
  - It was less about Gore than his fervent fans. (n/t) - TB - 7/12/2008 10:15:40 AM
    - Those foolish sheep! At least you dont stoop to mindless hero worship! - ARRELL - 7/12/2008 10:26:21 PM
      - Wow...that was a definite 9.0 on the "Weighing the Strawberries" meter. (n/t) - TB - 7/12/2008 11:03:19 PM
        And what would Ayn Rand call a bunch of strawberries? - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 10:01:11 AM
        re: And what would Ayn Rand call a bunch of strawberries? - She would wonder what she's doing in the pits. (sorry). (n/t) - Marcia - 7/13/2008 10:08:25 PM
      - And of course if I had looked for the terms 'objectivist' or collectivist my computer would have melted... - ARRELL - 7/12/2008 10:33:02 PM

Flames belong on the Flame Board - Lindy - 7/11/2008 11:21:42 AM
- Yeah, even - nick hoffman - 7/12/2008 12:40:47 AM
  - The Love Zone - Lindy - 7/12/2008 7:35:58 AM

Australian climate hysteria - TB - 7/9/2008 11:03:17 AM

How I learned to love the Bomb - Defense Secretary Robert Gates - 7/8/2008 2:53:13 PM
- In related news, Catholic priests sign chastity agreement - TB - 7/8/2008 5:01:07 PM

Democrats dodging the energy issue - TB - 7/8/2008 11:28:07 AM
- We are already in a hole. No need to drill more of 'em. - Bowser - 7/12/2008 6:52:50 AM
  - re: We are already in a hole - TB - 7/12/2008 11:47:55 AM
    - Panic in the Democratic Party - TB - 7/12/2008 12:46:04 PM
- But not all of them... - TB - 7/11/2008 8:53:40 PM

Group proposes George W. Bush Sewage Plant - Lindy - 7/8/2008 4:43:46 AM
- A plant that cleans up tons of liberal crap? Could work. - TB - 7/8/2008 9:08:15 AM
  - Right.. - ER - 7/8/2008 11:10:29 AM

They're MESSING with my FRUIT LOOOOPS!!!!! - carl - 7/7/2008 2:28:22 PM

This is what I'm talking about. - Bowser - 7/6/2008 11:10:01 AM
- " That which is needed to win a situation like this, the "hearts and minds" of the population" - Lindy - 7/6/2008 4:41:49 PM

Please stop blowing smoke up my... - Buck Galaxy - 7/5/2008 1:56:11 AM
- he needs a holder - FrankC - 7/6/2008 9:53:02 AM
  - see how much nicer this looks - FrankC - 7/6/2008 11:37:27 AM
- Well that is the last straw...he just lost my vote! - Jody - 7/6/2008 5:45:09 AM
  - have to go smoke before he pushes that button - FrankC - 7/7/2008 12:30:42 PM
- This man could be a great President, Buck - McFly - 7/5/2008 8:26:30 PM
  - 19th Century? And me without a horse. (n/t) - Eri - 7/5/2008 11:04:18 PM
- Just exactly where do you have your bare - - - ? :-) (n/t) - Bowser - 7/5/2008 5:23:03 PM
- huh? (n/t) - alcaray - 7/5/2008 9:03:57 AM
- That's a hell of a nicotine stain. - Lee - 7/5/2008 7:54:55 AM

Press works with Conservatives to sway opinion, pervert the language. - Bowser - 7/3/2008 5:05:02 PM
- Sometimes a contractor is just a contractor - TB - 7/3/2008 10:07:28 PM

On interrogation methods--where I am right now - TB - 7/3/2008 2:12:40 PM
- It shouldn't be that difficult to define what is torture. - ER - 7/3/2008 5:02:55 PM
  - No, it shouldn't, should it? - TB - 7/3/2008 9:32:00 PM
    - Being forced to listen to Eminem? That IS torture and should be outlawed! - Eri - 7/5/2008 11:31:06 AM
    - But it does - ER - 7/4/2008 6:43:05 AM
      - re: But it does - TB - 7/4/2008 12:47:47 PM
        There is no way you can convince me the Administrations's torture policies are justified. - ER - 7/4/2008 12:59:43 PM
        Justified? No. Understandable? Yes. - TB - 7/4/2008 3:58:11 PM
        Bush sucks, Congress sucks, the people suck! - Eri - 7/5/2008 12:08:02 PM
      - The best answer I have seen - FrankC - 7/4/2008 10:39:43 AM
        Taking responsibility - Robert - 7/4/2008 11:29:10 AM
        Exactly- (Returning late to the thread) - ARRELL - 7/8/2008 8:28:09 AM
        Well-said! (n/t) - Eri - 7/5/2008 12:12:09 PM
        Sounds good. - Lee - 7/4/2008 9:44:29 PM
        Confessions - TB - 7/8/2008 10:27:04 AM
        Good post. - TB - 7/4/2008 12:50:34 PM
        re: Good post. - Robert - 7/5/2008 10:33:42 AM
        Posterity - TB - 7/8/2008 9:14:37 AM
        "you have to admit that you're not known for changing your mind" - Robert - 7/8/2008 10:25:00 AM
        Give him some credit... - ARRELL - 7/8/2008 11:49:04 AM
        Now, hold on thar... - TB - 7/8/2008 1:53:47 PM

Christopher Hitchens gets waterboarded - TB - 7/2/2008 11:03:02 AM
- Good for him - Tony - 7/2/2008 11:44:47 AM
  - But on another hand... - TB - 7/2/2008 4:47:21 PM
    - We considered it torture before... what changed? - ARRELL - 7/2/2008 5:14:03 PM
      - It's not torture...it's - z - 7/2/2008 9:09:39 PM
        Maybe you can answer the question I asked on another thread - TB - 7/2/2008 9:19:06 PM
      - Just making a point. - TB - 7/2/2008 8:31:58 PM
        Do we have principles or don't we? - Mary Anne - 7/3/2008 4:34:22 AM
        In the first gulf war how many lives were saved by the Iraqis surrendering in droves because they KNEW we would treat them humanely? - ARRELL - 7/2/2008 9:53:25 PM
        Assuming that's why they surrendered. - Lee - 7/2/2008 10:32:33 PM
        Our army certainly assumed so... - ARRELL - 7/2/2008 10:55:50 PM
        Lets assume for a moment that torture actually does save lives... - ARRELL - 7/2/2008 9:33:54 PM
        re: Lets assume for a moment that torture actually does save lives... - TB - 7/2/2008 9:51:07 PM
        See my post above - ARRELL - 7/2/2008 10:19:23 PM
        Actually, you've pretty much won this argument. - TB - 7/3/2008 1:09:32 PM
        BTW... - TB - 7/3/2008 1:11:58 PM
      - It's because our motives are pure, as pure as the driven slush! - Bowser - 7/2/2008 7:37:35 PM
        What might those motives be? (n/t) - RobVG - 7/2/2008 7:44:01 PM
        You jest, or course. - Bowser - 7/2/2008 8:39:40 PM
        Sorry, wasn't kidding. - RobVG - 7/2/2008 10:32:18 PM
        I'm not sure I'll agree with a "no preemptive war" amendment. - ER - 7/8/2008 11:46:24 AM

With the 4th of July coming up Friday - FrankC - 7/1/2008 9:11:19 PM
- re: With the 4th of July coming up Friday - Robert - 7/2/2008 9:40:44 AM
  - never considered it an oath - FrankC - 7/2/2008 11:09:39 AM
    - Agreed Frank. (n/t) - Jody - 7/3/2008 7:33:41 AM
    - Do citizens have a responsibility to make it right rather than wrong? (n/t) - alcaray - 7/2/2008 1:14:24 PM
      - right and wrong and responsibility - FrankC - 7/2/2008 3:57:24 PM
- re: With the 4th of July coming up Friday - ER - 7/2/2008 3:50:02 AM
  - Pledges and oaths - TB - 7/2/2008 10:32:13 AM
    - Renewing your wows. - ER - 7/2/2008 12:15:01 PM
      - re: Traditions - TB - 7/2/2008 12:40:30 PM
        Yeah, those same thoughts have occurred to me. (n/t) - ER - 7/2/2008 3:13:34 PM
  - Actions SPEAK LOUDER than WORDS - carl - 7/2/2008 8:39:57 AM
    - So just what else did you have in mind, citizen? - ER - 7/2/2008 10:22:48 AM
- bizarre how "a more perfect union" became "a perfect union"! - alcaray - 7/2/2008 1:33:38 AM
- "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." Mark Twain (n/t) - Bowser - 7/1/2008 10:40:49 PM

Britain: slow death by political correctness - TB - 7/1/2008 12:25:03 PM
- do any of the people in this thread live in the UK? - Doug Ellison - 7/2/2008 4:03:39 AM
  - The people who wrote the article do. - TB - 7/2/2008 10:47:02 AM
  - Are British Conservatives as clueless as their American cousins? - Robert - 7/2/2008 10:31:13 AM
  - Well said, Doug... - nick hoffman - 7/2/2008 7:58:24 AM
    - Speaking from personal knowledge - Mary Anne - 7/2/2008 3:37:50 PM
      - Not "people"; some people. - alcaray - 7/2/2008 6:52:19 PM
        Yeah, whatever. - Mary Anne - 7/3/2008 4:22:02 AM
- More from England - TB - 7/1/2008 5:56:55 PM
- A great cartoon on this topic... - ARRELL - 7/1/2008 2:06:05 PM
  - The scary part is the last 2 minutes of the episode (n/t) - ARRELL - 7/1/2008 2:07:52 PM
- They should apologize properly - ARRELL - 7/1/2008 12:57:47 PM
  - And a bottle of English wine. - ER - 7/1/2008 1:55:30 PM
- unreal and interesting - FrankC - 7/1/2008 12:41:11 PM
  - Natan Sharansky on identity and democracy - Mary Anne - 7/1/2008 2:48:27 PM

McCain's character - TB - 6/30/2008 9:49:51 PM
- Pardon me as I grab a towel to clean the keyboard and screen. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/1/2008 12:46:38 AM
  - OMG....you met John McCain?? - Lindy - 7/1/2008 5:25:38 AM
- That's why - Buck Galaxy - 7/1/2008 12:39:40 AM
  - Don't you wish the Democrats had picked their best? - TB - 7/1/2008 8:54:52 AM
    - But they didn't - Buck Galaxy - 7/4/2008 5:30:15 PM
      - "Great ideas" - TB - 7/4/2008 5:54:40 PM

America's lost "mojo": The hole in New York City - TB - 6/30/2008 3:42:19 PM
- More on this - TB - 7/9/2008 11:19:27 PM
  - 'tourist' view - Doug Ellison - 7/10/2008 4:42:36 PM
    - This is a cultural epidemic - TB - 7/10/2008 11:22:52 PM
      - Haven't you heard, TB? It's all about service industries now. - ER - 7/11/2008 5:45:05 AM
        The bureaucrats in these things aren't in the industries, ER. - TB - 7/11/2008 8:52:49 AM
        Some times there's a good reason for care. - alcaray - 7/11/2008 3:23:29 PM
        Not all our heroes fell on the battlefield. - ER - 7/12/2008 5:04:28 AM
        You wouldn't want to be working in Six Company... - nick hoffman - 7/12/2008 12:48:54 AM
        re: The bureaucrats in these things aren't in the industries, ER. - ER - 7/11/2008 10:32:04 AM
        Now you are just pulling his chain. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/11/2008 3:20:24 PM
        But it still won't flush. (n/t) - ER - 7/11/2008 3:59:59 PM
        Digging - TB - 7/11/2008 10:48:09 AM
        Yes, I know them intimately. - ER - 7/11/2008 11:23:46 AM
        "Libertarian utopia" - TB - 7/11/2008 11:59:04 AM
        Atlas Sucked - ER - 7/11/2008 12:30:20 PM
        re: Atlas Sucked - TB - 7/11/2008 2:48:17 PM
        After that response, - ER - 7/11/2008 3:45:34 PM

Does anyone think that Bush will clean up any of his messes? - Bowser - 6/28/2008 4:49:39 PM
- Psssstttt - Eri - 6/28/2008 7:25:21 PM
  - Where would you have put the prisoners? (n/t) - TB - 6/28/2008 9:44:50 PM
    - Drop 'em by parachute into their own countries. - Eri - 6/29/2008 12:02:26 PM
      - Ah. Kill them. As long as we're clear on what the enlightened approach is. (n/t) - TB - 6/29/2008 6:20:37 PM
        Or was that "release them to fight again?" I'm sure either approach is better than Gitmo. (n/t) - TB - 6/29/2008 6:32:19 PM
        What ever happened to fair trials? - Lindy - 6/29/2008 7:02:19 PM
        Either America lives by the principles it espouses or it doesn't... - ARRELL - 6/29/2008 7:01:35 PM
        re: principles - TB - 6/29/2008 10:47:16 PM
        Either you are faking ignorance or you REALLY don't know what you are talking about... - ARRELL - 6/30/2008 11:12:49 AM
        re: Either you are faking ignorance or you REALLY don't know what you are talking about... - TB - 6/30/2008 12:12:14 PM
        What a bunch of nonsence. - alcaray - 6/30/2008 1:23:02 PM
        You left off the important part... - ARRELL - 6/30/2008 3:39:21 PM
        re: the important part - TB - 6/30/2008 4:06:42 PM
        "First, we have now apparently redefined "torture" as anything at all--anything--that makes a prisoner either physically or mentally uncomfortable." - alcaray - 6/30/2008 5:46:02 PM
        The statement is true. - TB - 6/30/2008 5:55:44 PM
        You made the allegation. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/30/2008 6:14:58 PM
        Read this carefully - ARRELL - 6/30/2008 5:26:23 PM
        Objective values & morals - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/30/2008 6:07:32 PM
        Giving your post a response in kind - SDUH - 6/30/2008 7:15:27 PM
        You give mirror writing a bad name... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/30/2008 8:02:35 PM
        Why, I have no idea what you mean! - SDUMB-ASS - 6/30/2008 8:43:23 PM
        Ad hominem... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/30/2008 9:57:05 PM
        Don't look at me- this is apparently between you and the Bulgarians now... - ARRELL - 6/30/2008 11:11:58 PM
        re: Read this carefully - TB - 6/30/2008 5:53:53 PM
        "Does it matter that the potential victims don't even get a vote?"- No, it really doesn't - ARRELL - 6/30/2008 6:30:43 PM
        Rationally, I agree with you. - TB - 6/30/2008 6:51:44 PM
        Then why do you keep defending what you KNOW is wrong? (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/30/2008 7:40:04 PM
        Why are you attacking? - TB - 6/30/2008 9:10:46 PM
        A New York Times article on the interrogation of KSM - TB - 6/30/2008 12:39:41 PM
        A lot of "these people" weren't guilty of anything, yet were held for years and then released. - alcaray - 6/30/2008 2:10:44 AM
        Monsters, using their conduct to justify one's own. - Bowser - 6/29/2008 11:03:10 PM
        "we've become the monster we were supposedly ridding the world of" - Lindy - 6/30/2008 6:53:28 AM
    - A ranch just outside Crawford, Texas. Some in Kennebunkport. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/28/2008 10:48:10 PM

Quote of the day on constitutional issues - TB - 6/28/2008 1:46:21 PM
- Can you name any of these people? (n/t) - Tony - 6/30/2008 9:31:37 AM
  - "Those people", Tony, are us; me and thee. (n/t) - ER - 6/30/2008 9:47:47 AM
- Damn! - Eri - 6/29/2008 12:05:55 PM
- So, the US constitution can't ever be changed? (n/t) - Raoul - 6/29/2008 1:55:36 AM
  - Of course it can. - Mary Anne - 6/29/2008 7:44:07 AM
    - "I remember habeas corpus" - TB - 6/29/2008 6:27:53 PM
      - If it weren't a Constitutional issue... - Mary Anne - 6/29/2008 7:47:40 PM
        re: If it weren't a Constitutional issue... - TB - 6/29/2008 10:55:24 PM
        As I said: habeas corpus is being undermined. - Mary Anne - 6/30/2008 4:05:40 AM

The creeping temptation to conspiracy theory... - TB - 6/27/2008 2:16:02 PM
- re: The creeping temptation to conspiracy theory... - Buck Galaxy - 6/27/2008 8:10:17 PM
  - There's an easy test. - Bowser - 6/27/2008 10:40:25 PM
  - You see, this is why we have to avoid the temptation. - TB - 6/27/2008 8:46:42 PM
    - Thanks for the link - Buck Galaxy - 6/28/2008 1:12:24 AM
      - There's no pattern there, Buck. - TB - 6/28/2008 1:17:20 PM
- "Paranoia strikes deep,,,into your heart it will creep..." - ER - 6/27/2008 4:59:39 PM
  - Just a note - TB - 6/27/2008 6:50:13 PM
    - What's the difference? - ER - 6/27/2008 8:15:29 PM
  - Ayn Randian nuns will rap his knuckles with a ruler.... - ARRELL - 6/27/2008 5:13:59 PM

Obamanomalism - Robert - 6/27/2008 12:38:20 PM
- If the ends don't justify the means, what does?"-- Pat Buchanan - ER - 6/29/2008 12:15:16 PM
- But wait, there's more - Robert - 6/27/2008 7:44:21 PM
  - But wait, there's even more - Robert - 6/29/2008 10:33:35 AM
    - Okay, now that you've set the height of the bar... - TB - 6/29/2008 6:31:14 PM
      - Like a dog returning to vomit... - Robert - 6/30/2008 7:42:21 AM
        "Clean campaign" - TB - 6/30/2008 11:03:47 AM
        Amazing - Robert - 6/30/2008 12:51:14 PM
        re: Amazing - TB - 6/30/2008 1:18:43 PM
        A bit more "clean campaigning" - TB - 6/30/2008 1:26:45 PM
        Congratulations, TB - Robert - 6/30/2008 7:34:18 PM
        Nice dancin' yourself - TB - 6/30/2008 9:45:36 PM
- When you can't defend your positions on policy, I guess it's natural to turn to smear campaigns (n/t) - z - 6/27/2008 1:28:35 PM
  - Republicans haven't had less to offer in many, many decades (n/t) - Robert - 6/27/2008 3:40:42 PM
    - Less is still more than nothing. - TB - 6/27/2008 4:52:22 PM
      - "Obama hasn't come up with anything I wasn't hearing twenty years ago" - Robert - 6/27/2008 7:32:15 PM
        Heh. You have no idea, do you? - TB - 6/27/2008 8:00:08 PM
        You have no idea, do you? - Robert - 6/27/2008 8:22:16 PM
        Good Lord, is this sad. - TB - 6/27/2008 9:06:54 PM
        "Who's going to end up having to run Obama?" - Lindy - 6/28/2008 9:24:52 AM
        Best and brightest - TB - 6/28/2008 1:27:50 PM
        >"So, what do you think of........" - Lindy - 6/28/2008 6:09:28 PM
        Condescension, #12 of a finite set - Robert - 6/27/2008 11:22:45 PM
        re: Condescension - TB - 6/28/2008 1:24:25 PM
      - No- its fair to say that this administration has given us FAR less than nothing in many areas.... (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/27/2008 5:17:28 PM
- re: Obamanomalism - ER - 6/27/2008 1:00:03 PM
  - "These people" It's a conspiracy, I tell you! (n/t) - TB - 6/27/2008 2:00:36 PM
    - I wish they'd hurry up and send me my check. (n/t) - ER - 6/27/2008 5:07:49 PM
    - You're one to talk! Sheesh- you find socialist conspiracies everywhere you look! (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/27/2008 2:12:11 PM
      - Check out the next thread up! - TB - 6/27/2008 2:23:16 PM

Mexican drug wars, cop killings and the US. - Bowser - 6/27/2008 8:17:04 AM

Glenn Greenwald makes an amazing discovery... - TB - 6/26/2008 7:52:10 PM
- substitute Obama for Dem Party and you may have a smidgen of a point - Tony - 6/27/2008 7:14:12 AM
  - Love for McCain - TB - 6/27/2008 9:38:34 AM
    - Bush is NOT a mainstream Republican! - Lindy - 6/27/2008 9:40:23 AM
      - Unfortunately, he's closer to the current mainstream than Reagan was. (n/t) - TB - 6/27/2008 9:52:05 AM
  - or Fox "News". - Bowser - 6/27/2008 7:35:54 AM
    - re: or Fox "News". - TB - 6/27/2008 9:50:59 AM

Do we have a constitutional scholar, or colonial historian, in the house? - ER - 6/26/2008 7:21:11 PM
- American colonists versus the Crown - E.P. - 7/3/2008 2:48:41 PM
- Some information - TB - 6/26/2008 8:56:39 PM
- I'm not constitutional scholar but I can read - Eri - 6/26/2008 8:11:47 PM
  - If that's what it meant - Lee - 6/26/2008 8:26:01 PM
    - What the founding fathers wanted doesn't matter. - ER - 6/26/2008 8:59:07 PM
      - Private militias have existed as well. - Lee - 6/26/2008 9:07:44 PM
        We have them today too, they're called "gangs". - ER - 6/26/2008 9:24:27 PM
        And "Blackwater" - Robert - 6/26/2008 9:44:10 PM
        I wouldn't worry about it too much. - Lee - 6/26/2008 9:28:30 PM
- The court did not consider it the "key phrase". - RobVG - 6/26/2008 7:57:48 PM
  - The Second Amendment says no such thing. - ER - 6/26/2008 8:30:15 PM
    - Clarification. - ER - 6/26/2008 8:39:41 PM
      - whatever the Supreme Court says it is - FrankC - 6/26/2008 9:46:06 PM
      - If that's the case - Lee - 6/26/2008 8:43:32 PM
        Wrong again. - ER - 6/26/2008 9:14:24 PM
        That's what I said. - Lee - 6/26/2008 9:25:27 PM

A surmise regarding pardons. - Bowser - 6/26/2008 4:26:12 PM